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Old 11-04-2014, 05:59 PM
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Nick, do you mind explaining why you think that? I don't see how it would have been much different than the trip Secret Circle got last year.
If he stays that close, there is almost no chance he has that kind of kick at the end. Huge late runs are almost always an illusion.
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Old 11-04-2014, 06:07 PM
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Karakontie and Anodin each put in nice runs in the Mile.
One right after the other - Anodin bore in a bit late but (here comes the cliché) looked like he was shot out of a cannon.
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Old 11-04-2014, 07:22 PM
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If he stays that close, there is almost no chance he has that kind of kick at the end. Huge late runs are almost always an illusion.
Of course, but he wouldn't need that kind of kick to win from that position. He had triple digit Beyers in his first two career starts, which were both at 6f, being on the pace or just flanking it, so I don't think my theory is that flawed. He had a last quarter in 23 4/5 and 23 2/5 in those starts as well. I'm not saying he would have come home that quickly off a sub 44 half, but it shows he has the ability to kick even being up close. Even if he was 3 lengths off the lead in the BC, he would have needed a 24 2/5 last quarter to definitely win. I don't think that's unreasonable.
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:18 PM
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Bourbon Courage ran his final 1/4 in 23.52 and final 1/8 in 11.69s, times which were 1.33 and 1.18 seconds faster than the splits of Work ALl Week. The comparable times for others in the top ten of the Sprint are listed in the blog attached.

http://www.americasbestracing.net/en...up-data-recap/
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Old 11-05-2014, 12:38 AM
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Another problem with this horse is they wasted a lot of time running him in races he really should not have been in. He could have been a 1 turn beast. Maybe its not to late, we will see.
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Old 11-05-2014, 02:25 PM
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From a pace figure standpoint, if you put Bourbon Courage next to Baaken, that still would have been the highest pace figure that he'd run since his debut which was 19 races (mostly routes) and 33 months ago. Plus you'd have to use him to get there.

On the DRF Moss scale, Fast Anna went 98-99 for the first two fractions and Baaken, who was 4 lengths off the lead, went 87-92. That's just way faster than Bourbon Courage is used to.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:11 PM
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I rarely use Trakus and don't use DRF Moss figures, so I can't speak to that.
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Old 11-06-2014, 08:18 AM
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Bobby's Kitten and Bourbon Courage were two great examples of horses who had their trainers impose their will on them to get them to go further than they wanted to go, and further than they were bred to go on the bottom of their pedigree.

I wish Bourbon Courage had an extra half furlong to work with, he would have made my Breeders' Cup for me. Bobby's Kitten just saved me from a rough weekend.
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