Norman gets six-month suspension

[Rupert Pupkin]

Alright, I finally talked to my friend at the CHRB. I was totally wrong about the trainer not being able to communicate with the barn. I could have sworn that he told me that a couple of months ago, but I must have misunderstood him.

Here is what he told me about bank records: He said that the CHRB has invetigators and they will try to stay on top of the money trail and make sure the trainer is not getting paid. They don't actually subpoena the bank records. They ask the trainer to voluntarily turn them over. If the trainer refuses, then the Board can refuse to give him his license back. Then the trainer could take them to court if it got that far. But usually the trainers will cooperate and give the board their bank records for every month during the suspension.

With regard to the poster that said that the owners would still make their checks payable to the suspended trainer, even if he was serving a 6 months suspension, my friend told me that he highly doubts this. In the case of Asmussen, during the suspension the owners would be writing their checks every month to Blasi, not Asmussen.

[Scav]

I am sure Blasi and others (he has several contingents across the country) have check writing power as they are part of his business

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Alright, I finally talked to my friend at the CHRB. I was totally wrong about the trainer not being able to communicate with the barn. I could have sworn that he told me that a couple of months ago, but I must have misunderstood him.

Here is what he told me about bank records: He said that the CHRB has invetigators and they will try to stay on top of the money trail and make sure the trainer is not getting paid. They don't actually subpoena the bank records. They ask the trainer to voluntarily turn them over. If the trainer refuses, then the Board can refuse to give him his license back. Then the trainer could take them to court if it got that far. But usually the trainers will cooperate and give the board their bank records for every month during the suspension.

With regard to the poster that said that the owners would still make their checks payable to the suspended trainer, even if he was serving a 6 months suspension, my friend told me that he highly doubts this. In the case of Asmussen, during the suspension the owners would be writing their checks every month to Blasi, not Asmussen.

Richi,
No racing board has any right at all to go after bank or phone records of any trainer.
Violation of a suspension IS NOT a criminal offense, not by a long shot.
This is the United States, and racing boards do not have rights that supercede those guranteed to all citizens.
Lets put it this way, if someone attempted to pull you over, and said they were with the CHRB, LOL!!!, they would be breaking the law.
They are not boards with the powers of Federal powers like the SEC. They have no authority whatsoever off the racetrack, none. And any attempt to breach the privacy of citizens off he track by attempting to acess their personal records would be met with lawsuits or arrests of the indivuals who attempted to illegally gain acess.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Richi,
No racing board has any right at all to go after bank or phone records of any trainer.
Violation of a suspension IS NOT a criminal offense, not by a long shot.
This is the United States, and racing boards do not have rights that supercede those guranteed to all citizens.
Lets put it this way, if someone attempted to pull you over, and said they were with the CHRB, LOL!!!, they would be breaking the law.
They are not boards with the powers of Federal powers like the SEC. They have no authority whatsoever off the racetrack, none. And any attempt to breach the privacy of citizens off he track by attempting to acess their personal records would be met with lawsuits or arrests of the indivuals who attempted to illegally gain acess.

As I just said, sometimes they will ask you to voluntarily turn over your bank records. If you refuse, then they may refuse to re-license you. At that point, you could sue them if you wanted to and the courts would decide. It usually doesn't get that far. The trainers will usually cooperate and turn over their bank records. What I'm telling you is straight from the horse's mouth. My friend was on the CHRB and they used to do this. I just got off the phone with him an hour ago and we talked about this in detail.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

As I just said, sometimes they will ask you to voluntarily turn over your bank records. If you refuse, then they may refuse to re-license you. At that point, you could sue them if you wanted to and the courts would decide. It usually doesn't get that far. The trainers will usually cooperate and turn over their bank records. What I'm telling you is straight from the horse's mouth. My friend was on the CHRB and they used to do this. I just got off the phone with him an hour ago and we talked about this in detail.

I have 7 bank accounts with 3 different banks. What would keep me from having owners send money to a different account?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I have 7 bank accounts with 3 different banks. What would keep me from having owners send money to a different account?

Furthermore I don't care what Richi says, hes dead wrong. Not one of those racing commissions has the power to acess your bank records. The most they coud do is report suspected criminal activity to the proper authorities, and violating a suspension is NOT criminal activity. The authorities wouldn't waste their time. These suspensions are enforcable by these boards, but they do not have powers that supercede the rights of citizens of this country.
They could indeed request bank records, but you would be under no obligation to give them bank records.