2015 Kentucky Derby

[KirisClown]

Between now and whenever, someone will inevitably mention this horse for the Derby.. so I'll do i now.

Gold Shield..

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by KirisClown

Between now and whenever, someone will inevitably mention this horse for the Derby.. so I'll do i now.

Gold Shield..

Would be nice if he broke his maiden first right Kiri? Honor Code working again

[KirisClown]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Would be nice if he broke his maiden first right Kiri? Honor Code working again

It took Orb until late November to break his maiden..

If he races again, Honor Code will never come anywhere close to living up to the attention he gets.. I'd be more interested in following Top Billing..

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by KirisClown

It took Orb until late November to break his maiden..

If he races again, Honor Code will never come anywhere close to living up to the attention he gets.. I'd be more interested in following Top Billing..

Honor Code is better and Top billing still not on the work tab.

[RockHardTen1985]

At least this sets up a potential war in the Juvenile. Ill take Carpe Diem all day over Daredevil. Daredevil needs to win on a dry track first, plus I feel like he is being rushed a little. Upstart might be better then Daredevil IMO. Anyway, I still think Carpe Diem has to take another step forward to beat American Pharoah. This is a very good 2yr old class so far, the horses I mentioned here are running very fast races. Exciting times.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

At least this sets up a potential war in the Juvenile. Ill take Carpe Diem all day over Daredevil. Daredevil needs to win on a dry track first, plus I feel like he is being rushed a little. Upstart might be better then Daredevil IMO. Anyway, I still think Carpe Diem has to take another step forward to beat American Pharoah. This is a very good 2yr old class so far, the horses I mentioned here are running very fast races. Exciting times.

I also really like Blofeld. I said during Saratoga that Carpe Diem, Blofeld and Competitive Edge were the three best babies that I saw. Blofeld just ran a 100 beyer yesterday with a bad trip. This is a very fast class early on.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by KirisClown

It took Orb until late November to break his maiden..

If he races again, Honor Code will never come anywhere close to living up to the attention he gets.. I'd be more interested in following Top Billing..

I don’t get this at all. What attention does he get? Did he not deserve attention last year? He won first time out like a really good thing. He made up 22 lengths and ran an 89 beyer. With his trainer and pedigree some expectations were sure to follow. He came back and ran a bang up 2nd to the BC Juvy chalk Havana. He was 8 wide in that race and ran a 93 beyer, improving off his debut and proving he was not just a slop freak. He skips the BC he would have been the chalk or the 2nd chalk behind Havana had they gone. He wins the Remsen. In that race he beats Cairo Prince and Wicked Strong. Before the Remsen Cairo Prince had won the G2 Nashua. After the Remsen, Cairo Prince dominated the Holy Bull. He was a top notch Derby prospect until something went wrong in the Florida Derby. Wicked Strong who ran 3rd in the Remsen has won the Wood Memorial and Jim Dandy since, and you can argue he was best in the Travers. I think any praise or attention that Honor Code got was well deserved. The handicap division is a mess right now, I hope he comes back better then ever. As for Top Billing I believe Honor Code is the better horse and as of now Honor Code has accomplished a lot more on the track. I think Top Billing is the real hype machine because of how he won a couple races. People love that big late running style. Top Billing has a slow maiden win at Laurel and an allowance win at Gulfstream on his resume. He beat nothing in that allowance race, Surfing USA has totally fallen apart since. Top Billing was a non threatening 3rd as the chalk in his only stakes attempt.