Jockey shenanigans mar BC prep races

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Benny

Mig had a curious take on a possible scenario, which andy termed a conspiracy rheory . Espinosa did his number on Shared Belief so SB would havesometning taken out of him, so California Chrome would have a better chance in BC, after what happened to CC in the PA derby. Migs theory is that you would like to have an easy race before the big one,not a hard one, ie when working a horse have the big piece of work two out and aneasy work as the last one.

As far as rabbits go,didn't Dutrow multiple rabbits in one race a few years ago, the Woodward in 2006, Saint Liam and Commentator, after Commentator won the Whitney at Saratoga,as lone spead.

" After Saint Liam lost the Whitney Handicap at Saratoga, the trainer Richard Dutrow Jr. decided to take no chances yesterday in the Woodward at Belmont Park.

Dutrow triple-teamed Commentator, the Whitney winner, and his three horses proved to be far more than Commentator could handle. With an assist from his colony of so-called rabbits, Saint Liam dominated, winning by two lengths.

On Aug. 6, Commentator sneaked away to an easy early lead on his way to the Whitney victory over Saint Liam. Dutrow's answer yesterday was to control the pace with two speed horses.

Crafty Player and Show Boot did their job as rabbits, ganging up on the Nick Zito-trained Commentator, hounding him for as long as they could. Commentator zipped through an opening six furlongs i..............."

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...5AC0A9639C8B63

I joked about it being a conspiracy theory.

Commentator hardly " sneaked away " to an easy early lead. He ran 46.41 and 1:09.76. Saint Liam couldn't keep up with him. The notion that Commentator somehow stole that race is ludicrous.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I joked about it being a conspiracy theory.

Commentator hardly " sneaked away " to an easy early lead. He ran 46.41 and 1:09.76. Saint Liam couldn't keep up with him. The notion that Commentator somehow stole that race is ludicrous.

He ran hard every step of that race. 122 or 124 beyer I believe.

[Benny]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I joked about it being a conspiracy theory.

Commentator hardly " sneaked away " to an easy early lead. He ran 46.41 and 1:09.76. Saint Liam couldn't keep up with him. The notion that Commentator somehow stole that race is ludicrous.

Take that up with Bill Finley who wrote the NY Times article quoted from, or did you skip that part of the post. I didnot write it, Finley did !

Interesting that Bailey rode SL and was so critical of Espinosa on his ride vs Shared Belief., of course the rabbits were part of an entry in the Woodward which was not the case at SA saturday

It wasnt Bob Baffert that told Espinoza to go wide and hinder Shared Beliefs chances. It was this guy:



How can Shared Belief even be considered Top 3 yr old if he did not run in any of the Triple Crown races?

[TitanSooner]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

How can Shared Belief even be considered Top 3 yr old if he did not run in any of the Triple Crown races?

Tiznow

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by TitanSooner

Tiznow

He was being facetious.

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

It wasnt Bob Baffert that told Espinoza to go wide and hinder Shared Beliefs chances. It was this guy:



How can Shared Belief even be considered Top 3 yr old if he did not run in any of the Triple Crown races?

[alysheba4]

I hope tonalist or S.B. win so i can see him go Chernobyl.

[dalakhani]

Shared belief got floated out. That's racing. 7 days is ridiculous.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Shared belief got floated out. That's racing. 7 days is ridiculous.

You are right 7 days is ridiculous for not putting forth an effort to have his horse win the race and defrauding the betting public. Not to mention tactics that could have turned in to Mike Smith using a power chair for the rest of his life. I say 30 days minimum.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Shared belief got floated out. That's racing. 7 days is ridiculous.

I'm not sure what I think is the more ridiculous opinion right now, that he deserved to be suspended or that he and Baffert didn't concoct this scheme together.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Shared belief got floated out. That's racing. 7 days is ridiculous.

Spineless!