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Old 01-19-2007, 12:55 PM
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Pat Day was no more skilled than many other riders of his time...he was fortunate to be fed excellent mounts and have the right connections. He really wasnt that "great" a rider.
If you say so. But I guess 9 TC winners (and the only jock to win the Preakness 3 straight times). He also won the Canadian Triple Crown. And he holds the all time record for Breeders Cup wins with 12. I guess that is pretty much luck
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:01 PM
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If you say so. But I guess 9 TC winners (and the only jock to win the Preakness 3 straight times). He also won the Canadian Triple Crown. And he holds the all time record for Breeders Cup wins with 12. I guess that is pretty much luck

Listen...I am not saying he was a horrible jock. He had a long career...so of course he was going to get the wins. But he wasn't one of the greats....McCarron..Eddie D....Pincay...Cordero...Stevens......they were the great ones from his time....I am probably forgetting a few....Day was nowhere near the jockey those guys were...

Thank god that night when he was all whacked out on heroin in a hotel room that god magically appeared from his tv and told him to straighten out his life....who knows what dumpster he would be residing in today calling home
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:04 PM
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Listen...I am not saying he was a horrible jock. He had a long career...so of course he was going to get the wins. But he wasn't one of the greats....McCarron..Eddie D....Pincay...Cordero...Stevens......they were the great ones from his time....I am probably forgetting a few....Day was nowhere near the jockey those guys were...

Thank god that night when he was all whacked out on heroin in a hotel room that god magically appeared from his tv and told him to straighten out his life....who knows what dumpster he would be residing in today calling home
Yeah--too bad Antley didnt have God pop out of his tv like Day. But Day did more on the track than Stevens, McCarron, Eddie D and Cordero did. I would say that Pincay is the top dog. Personal preference is all.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:07 PM
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Yeah--too bad Antley didnt have God pop out of his tv like Day. But Day did more on the track than Stevens, McCarron, Eddie D and Cordero did. I would say that Pincay is the top dog. Personal preference is all.

Day was better than McCarron?????? Cordero?????

You are clearly nuts and/or clueless.

This time I am gonna ignore you.

Adios......
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:10 PM
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Day was better than McCarron?????? Cordero?????

You are clearly nuts and/or clueless.

This time I am gonna ignore you.

Adios......
Make your case as to why McCarron and Cordero are better. Change my mind. I am totally open to your logic. Go ahead and convince me.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:16 PM
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Make your case as to why McCarron and Cordero are better. Change my mind. I am totally open to your logic. Go ahead and convince me.


Sorry.....I made a donation to charity already this month. I have no interest in helping you. Try me again next month.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:18 PM
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Sorry.....I made a donation to charity already this month. I have no interest in helping you. Try me again next month.
So basically you can't? The numbers that Day has are much better than McCarron or Cordero.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:22 PM
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BTW, I fully respect that you've seen lots of great horses and all, but the thing is, there are very few great horses in training right now and a lot of Grades Stakes races...so I'm just wondering, if none of these victories are going to Jazil, Corinthian and all of the other horses you claim to be doubtful of victory...who is winning them? The few horses of quality would be lucky to start 4-6 times this year.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:28 PM
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So basically you can't? The numbers that Day has are much better than McCarron or Cordero.


Numbers huh?

So if you are a numbers guy where do guys like Rusell Baze and David Gall fall into your opinion? 3rd and 4th?

Numbers are not the end all to determine if a guy was "great".

Pat Day has the numbers.....but he couldnt wash either McCarron's or Cordero's jockstraps.



Clearly you arent worth wasting my time on.......adios
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:35 PM
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BTW, I fully respect that you've seen lots of great horses and all, but the thing is, there are very few great horses in training right now and a lot of Grades Stakes races...so I'm just wondering, if none of these victories are going to Jazil, Corinthian and all of the other horses you claim to be doubtful of victory...who is winning them? The few horses of quality would be lucky to start 4-6 times this year.
Strong Pretender of course.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:47 PM
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Euro,
I should write this in the other thread, you know which one.
It should be titled "fishing".
Goes like this...
Makes a cast.
Splashes down.
Lucky it didn't end up in the tree. Whewww!
Waits for the ripples to go away.
Waiting, waiting, waiting.
Gives it a twitch.
Nothing.
Gives it another.
Nope. That big one ain't comin' out.
Lockjaw is plenty frustrating.
Comeon ya big dumbass!
Nope...
So the jerk on one end of the line expecting a jerk on the other end reels in.
Cussin' while his rowboat slowly sinks.
Ain't no charity here!
And the DAY is made.
Glub, glub!
See ya Ahab!
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:53 PM
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Though some might not agree with what I have to say, it gives me a place to share some thoughts..or insanity. It's all about how you look at some things.
Wayne,

I hope you know I was kidding...
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:56 PM
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Pat Day was no more skilled than many other riders of his time...he was fortunate to be fed excellent mounts and have the right connections. He really wasnt that "great" a rider.
Speaking of excellent Pat Day mounts, Easy Goer was one of my favorite horses of all time... Easy Goer and Sunday Silence got me into watching horseracing as a kid. Silver Charm started the actual addiction.
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:30 PM
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Wayne,

I hope you know I was kidding...
Jaimie,
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.
Now if we got down to really talkin' about how to select the freshest oysters or the firmest melons....all I can say is... I'M WITH YA, BABE!
Now, let's just get back to pickin' the KD winner...that would be more than enough for me, and hopefully you too!
Heck, let's have a TC winner this year. I'm ready, you?
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:34 PM
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talking about claimers....how about a horse named EASY GRADES.......won 3 opt claimers in a row at LRL.....I told you he would be a great horse....
You were dead on about Easy Grades... those three wins are more than Corinthian and Steppenwolfer will have in 07 combined...

Im still waiting for my Byanosejoe predictions to come true...
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:44 PM
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You were dead on about Easy Grades... those three wins are more than Corinthian and Steppenwolfer will have in 07 combined...

Im still waiting for my Byanosejoe predictions to come true...
When did Easy grades win those races?

Wasn't he running for a 10K tag at Hawthorne last winter and maybe Churchill?

Hey, he was still winning though!
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:46 PM
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When did Easy grades win those races?

Wasn't he running for a 10K tag at Hawthorne last winter and maybe Churchill?

Hey, he was still winning though!
He was claimed in December again... LOL.
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:49 PM
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He was claimed in December again... LOL.
Hey, I'll like a horse like that more for the rest of time than a horse who runs a few big races and dissappears.
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:54 PM
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Hey, I'll like a horse like that more for the rest of time than a horse who runs a few big races and dissappears.
Agreed, but he doesn't have much of a choice as a gelding.
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Old 01-19-2007, 03:41 PM
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You were dead on about Easy Grades... those three wins are more than Corinthian and Steppenwolfer will have in 07 combined...

Im still waiting for my Byanosejoe predictions to come true...

What is that? That Byanosejoe will run a dull 3rd in a 16k claiming race. Congrats....today was your day
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