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eurobounce 01-18-2007 10:53 AM

Corinthian - YES
 
Oh, how I like this horse. He worked 6 furlongs in 1:13 at Palm Meadows on Wednesday. I am really looking forward to his return to racing. He could add some excitement to the older horse division this year.

point given 01-18-2007 06:47 PM

ditto
 
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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Oh, how I like this horse. He worked 6 furlongs in 1:13 at Palm Meadows on Wednesday. I am really looking forward to his return to racing. He could add some excitement to the older horse division this year.


He was my derby horse last year, and I never did get on the Barbaro bandwagon until it was too late. I hope they straightened his head out, he has plenty of talent. I'd guess they'd try to find a NW type race to get him started though and not try to do to much too soon. I think Belmont should suit him fine later on though.

Rupert Pupkin 01-18-2007 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Oh, how I like this horse. He worked 6 furlongs in 1:13 at Palm Meadows on Wednesday. I am really looking forward to his return to racing. He could add some excitement to the older horse division this year.

I assume you know that he ran once this past summer. They brought him back and ran him once in an allowance race at Saratoga. He didn't run very well and then they laid him up again.

stonegossard 01-18-2007 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Oh, how I like this horse. He worked 6 furlongs in 1:13 at Palm Meadows on Wednesday. I am really looking forward to his return to racing. He could add some excitement to the older horse division this year.


Clearly you are kidding. This horse will have zero impact on the older handicap division. Maybe he will add some "excitement" to 30k claimers towards the end of the year.....if he is still running....he ran one good race where things kind of fell into his lap.....

packerbacker7964 01-18-2007 08:00 PM

Yeah me too I see him as a one turn miler maybe within a Grade 3 win by years end at best. He really hasn't done enough to get on my radar as far as 4 year olds go. Steppenwolfer is the one I want to watch mature this year. Jazil is another who is going to have a great year i think.

stonegossard 01-18-2007 09:12 PM

Yeah...Corinthian was a one/two race wonder...his comeback at Sar was bad..don't see him being much at all

Not sure what's up with Steppenwolfer.....scratched out of his comeback race on the grass and was never heard from again...not a great sign....was kind of a suck up closer last year at OP....but I suppose he could make some noise if he's healthy....will see him in the Oaklawn series for older horses....

Jazil definetly might be a serious threat...his comeback race at AQU was perfect....did what he had to do and closed for 2nd....unfortuneatly he will always need some sort of hot pace to run into...but I am a fan of the horse...

The Donn should be a great race in a few weeks....too bad sweetnorthernsaint is running the weekend before....woulda liked to see him go vs invasor and premium tap......not sure but is Jazil going in The Donn?

eurobounce 01-18-2007 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I assume you know that he ran once this past summer. They brought him back and ran him once in an allowance race at Saratoga. He didn't run very well and then they laid him up again.

Oh yeah, I remember that day quite well and so does my wallet because it was empty.

eurobounce 01-18-2007 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard
Yeah...Corinthian was a one/two race wonder...his comeback at Sar was bad..don't see him being much at all

Not sure what's up with Steppenwolfer.....scratched out of his comeback race on the grass and was never heard from again...not a great sign....was kind of a suck up closer last year at OP....but I suppose he could make some noise if he's healthy....will see him in the Oaklawn series for older horses....

Jazil definetly might be a serious threat...his comeback race at AQU was perfect....did what he had to do and closed for 2nd....unfortuneatly he will always need some sort of hot pace to run into...but I am a fan of the horse...

The Donn should be a great race in a few weeks....too bad sweetnorthernsaint is running the weekend before....woulda liked to see him go vs invasor and premium tap......not sure but is Jazil going in The Donn?

I read somewhere that Steppenwolfer is at Oaklawn and is being pointed to the Oaklawn Handicapp April 2nd I believe. I could be wrong on the date. But I read where he is doing great and the trainer is excited about his return to the track.

KirisClown 01-18-2007 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard
Not sure what's up with Steppenwolfer.....


Find a consistent bottom level claimer to follow this year, it will be more rewarding...

ManilaRose 01-18-2007 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I read somewhere that Steppenwolfer is at Oaklawn and is being pointed to the Oaklawn Handicapp April 2nd I believe. I could be wrong on the date. But I read where he is doing great and the trainer is excited about his return to the track.

Yeah, that's correct. Being pointed to the Oaklawn series. Here's the article:

http://www.drf.com/drfNewsArticle.do...0&subs=0&arc=1

stonegossard 01-18-2007 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I read somewhere that Steppenwolfer is at Oaklawn and is being pointed to the Oaklawn Handicapp April 2nd I believe. I could be wrong on the date. But I read where he is doing great and the trainer is excited about his return to the track.


He is doing the Essex/Razorback/OP Handicap thing...

His trainer ALWAYS says the horse is doing great...its not like Peitz has a huge stable of good horses...so of course when he has a decent horse he is gonna make some noise....

I tend to not rely on what trainers say....I am sure Peitz is a nice guy...but really couldnt care less what he says

stonegossard 01-18-2007 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown
Find a consistent bottom level claimer to follow this year, it will be more rewarding...


Yeah....most likely Steppenwolfer will suck up some more 3rd palce checks this year....

talking about claimers....how about a horse named EASY GRADES.......won 3 opt claimers in a row at LRL.....I told you he would be a great horse....

ManilaRose 01-18-2007 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard
Yeah....most likely Steppenwolfer will suck up some more 3rd palce checks this year....

talking about claimers....how about a horse named EASY GRADES.......won 3 opt claimers in a row at LRL.....I told you he would be a great horse....

If I'm not mistaken I cashed some tickets on that horse at Churchill or Turfway in the past several years.

SniperSB23 01-18-2007 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I have never got the appeal of Steppenwolfer. Seems like a plodder to me. Trainer always saying how great he is doing, yet horse just doesn't win. Sucked up a lot in Arkansas, Kentucky and then everyone was ga ga over him in the Belmont. Has yet to run a race that would put him anywhere in the same zip code as Invasor, Discreet Cat or Premium Tap IMO.

Who has? The Essex and Razorback will be good tests. If he can't step up and win one of them then he isn't half the horse I think he is. If he can then I think he has as good a chance as anybody not in the the top three you mentioned and as we've learned from past years the chances of the top three in January being among the top three come BC Day are slim to none and less than that when none are geldings and all three are going to Dubai. A lot of people made the mistake of assuming that because he was a closer he'd like more distance last year. This is a one run closer that seems like he will be most effective around 8.5 to 9 furlongs.

As far as Corinthian goes, to suggest that he'll be in claimers because of his allowance comeback in ludicrous, he practically flipped over in the gate. The horse is loaded with talent, he just needs to get his head on straight. He'll never be in claimers since he's worth more than $100,000 as it is. If they gelded him I bet he'd be a top horse but chances of that happening are less than Discreet Cat running in the BC Classic ten months from now. More than likely he's still a headcase and is retired to stud. If (and this is a big if) he does get his head on straight though it would be quite foolish for people to overlook him.

Danzig 01-19-2007 05:02 AM

once upon a time older horses like cigar used to run at oaklawn. it's a shame that it's lost some of its luster, but too much competition for the top older males this time of year.
but at least we still have the apple blossom--and of course more emphasis was put on the three year old preps.

Dunbar 01-19-2007 05:56 AM

I'm more excited about the prospect of seeing how good Achilles of Troy is than I am about watching either Steppenwolfer or Corinthian.

Bullet work yesterday.

--Dunbar

Sightseek 01-19-2007 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard
......not sure but is Jazil going in The Donn?

No, he's going to the Gulfstream Park Handicap in March. Einstein may also be making his first (depending if Pitts preps him on turf or dirt) start on dirt in this race as well.


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