Girolamo

[The Indomitable DrugS]

This horse will run all day long. It's pretty funny that he's still never run beyond 8fs on dirt.

If pointed to a race like the Santa Anita Handicap - he'd be more likely than anyone to win that race.

[VOL JACK]

I guess he could also go to the Donn.

[blackthroatedwind]

Or Dubai.

[Betsy]

He's been a favorite of mine, but I didn't think he ran more than "ok" in the Cigar Mile...... I never thought it was "fair" to classify him as a miler based on an ill-advised journey out west, but he doesn't strike me as a horse that will thrive at longer distances.

[NTamm1215]

He's one of a frustratingly long list of mis-managed horses by Godolphin.

This was a banner year for their ineptitude. I can't quite figure out what's the problem because Rick Mettee is an awfully sharp guy.

Between Sara Louise being rushed into a 9 week campaign to Girolamo debuting in a GI to Vineyard Haven totally falling off form to Regal Ransom having a campaign headlined by winning a N3X at Saratoga, it was just sickening. Thank God Hibaayeb won a disgracefully bad Yellow Ribbon and Girolamo won the worst Vosburgh in its history.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

He's one of a frustratingly long list of mis-managed horses by Godolphin.

This was a banner year for their ineptitude. I can't quite figure out what's the problem because Rick Mettee is an awfully sharp guy.

Between Sara Louise being rushed into a 9 week campaign to Girolamo debuting in a GI to Vineyard Haven totally falling off form to Regal Ransom having a campaign headlined by winning a N3X at Saratoga, it was just sickening. Thank God Hibaayeb won a disgracefully bad Yellow Ribbon and Girolamo won the worst Vosburgh in its history.

They are so bad, and so inept, I really think that someone that is a rank amateur or novice/beginner in horse racing would make better decisions.

Which makes me wonder if they are sabotaging themselves on purpose.

I know that sounds implausible, but the way they run things, nothing else really makes any sense.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

He's one of a frustratingly long list of mis-managed horses by Godolphin.

This was a banner year for their ineptitude. I can't quite figure out what's the problem because Rick Mettee is an awfully sharp guy.

Between Sara Louise being rushed into a 9 week campaign to Girolamo debuting in a GI to Vineyard Haven totally falling off form to Regal Ransom having a campaign headlined by winning a N3X at Saratoga, it was just sickening. Thank God Hibaayeb won a disgracefully bad Yellow Ribbon and Girolamo won the worst Vosburgh in its history.

I dont think Mettee has much influence on where they run horses. As a matter of fact I dont think anyone in that organization says no to SM very often.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

He's one of a frustratingly long list of mis-managed horses by Godolphin.

This was a banner year for their ineptitude. I can't quite figure out what's the problem because Rick Mettee is an awfully sharp guy.

Between Sara Louise being rushed into a 9 week campaign to Girolamo debuting in a GI to Vineyard Haven totally falling off form to Regal Ransom having a campaign headlined by winning a N3X at Saratoga, it was just sickening. Thank God Hibaayeb won a disgracefully bad Yellow Ribbon and Girolamo won the worst Vosburgh in its history.

Respectfully you kinda left out Campanologist being 16th in the Melbourne Cup and Delegator 8th in the BC Mile.

Look at this...

http://www.timeform.com/godolphin/gd...5060&source=01

These are seriously good horses.

Or were...

I don't know what to think anymore.

I'm not defending anyone anymore.

Fin.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Betsy

He's been a favorite of mine, but I didn't think he ran more than "ok" in the Cigar Mile......

He was rushed along early - and still finished up as well as anyone late despite stretching out a quarter mile off of two 6fs sprints.

The older male division going long is as weak as ever - it's a complete and utter joke with Blame and Quality Road out of the way.

Like with the vast majority of A. P. Indy's - Girolamo's best game will inevitably be going long on dirt. While he has tremendous natural speed for an A. P. Indy .. he keeps having to be rushed along after a furlong or so just to hold position. That's happened in every single race of his this year. He won the Vosburgh inspite of it - because that field sucked.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He was rushed along early - and still finished up as well as anyone late despite stretching out a quarter mile off of two 6fs sprints.

The older male division going long is as weak as ever - it's a complete and utter joke with Blame and Quality Road out of the way.

Like with the vast majority of A. P. Indy's - Girolamo's best game will inevitably be going long on dirt. While he has tremendous natural speed for an A. P. Indy .. he keeps having to be rushed along after a furlong or so just to hold position. That's happened in every single race of his this year. He won the Vosburgh inspite of it - because that field sucked.

I admit that I think they have done a lousy job with him......but I figure that he'll be retired anyway now that he has his grade 1. After Bernardini, I've learned not to get my hopes up with Godolphin.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Betsy

He's been a favorite of mine, but I didn't think he ran more than "ok" in the Cigar Mile...... I never thought it was "fair" to classify him as a miler based on an ill-advised journey out west, but he doesn't strike me as a horse that will thrive at longer distances.

Yeah, mine too.
Because I toss him every time he runs with the utmost confidence.
I love those over bet/over hyped horses.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Yeah, mine too.
Because I toss him every time he runs with the utmost confidence.
I love those over bet/over hyped horses.

Girolamo's won 4 of his last 7 dirt races ... and he's the only A. P. Indy to ever win a Grade 1 stakes race at 6fs or less.

In terms of ability - I'm not sure there's another older male left in the country who I believe is much better than him.

Saturday was the first time I ever remember betting him in his career - and I bet virtually peanuts on him because he was coupled with the hopeless Vineyard Haven.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Yeah, mine too.
Because I toss him every time he runs with the utmost confidence.
I love those over bet/over hyped horses.

Jack this is silly. Toss every time he runs? Well I guess you lost some $ LAST YEAR. I guess you also lost $ in that G1 sprint a few back.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

This horse will run all day long. It's pretty funny that he's still never run beyond 8fs on dirt.

If pointed to a race like the Santa Anita Handicap - he'd be more likely than anyone to win that race.

I realize he's by AP Indy and related to the great Super Saver, but is there something you've seen in his races or deciphered from his PPs that suggests he wants to go further?

I shouldn't really ask, as doing the total opposite of what Godolphin wants to do with a horse would probably be a very successful approach.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

This horse will run all day long. It's pretty funny that he's still never run beyond 8fs on dirt.

If pointed to a race like the Santa Anita Handicap - he'd be more likely than anyone to win that race.

Im sure this will make you change your opinion, but I think Giralomo could EASILY BE THE BEST HORSE IN TRAINING NEXT YEAR. They need to campaign him the right way. Break-prep-Donn and go from there. Not this bullshit with the winter and spring off. Let this horse roll in the 9f and 10f US Classic races.