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Old 02-26-2010, 09:54 PM
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Makes sense , I like it ! Gonna be a high quality meet !
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Old 02-26-2010, 10:09 PM
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Interesting.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:42 AM
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As nice is SPA is during the summer..With the daily T storms..The Jersey Shore is a helluva nice place to set up shop for a few months. NYC 35 miles away.. Philly 65.. and of course you can hang with Snookie and "the Situation" in Seaside
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:43 AM
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A boutique meet would be a great idea for Monmouth. Let's see it get done, however.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:36 AM
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As nice is SPA is during the summer..With the daily T storms..The Jersey Shore is a helluva nice place to set up shop for a few months. NYC 35 miles away.. Philly 65.. and of course you can hang with Snookie and "the Situation" in Seaside
If only the could helicopter people in so you wouldn't have to deal with the traffic.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:43 AM
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If only the could helicopter people in so you wouldn't have to deal with the traffic.
The parkway in summer sucks but don't worry I will hook you up with the back roads. Plus you will be staying a cab ride away with an ocean front room at the Long Branch Pier..The traffic only sucks in the morning.. Monmouth really could be an awesome boutique meet. Let SPA run 4 NY bred races 2 stakes 2 Mdn Spl and claimer turf sprint. Monmouth willtake the allowance, opt claimers. claimers and stake here or there
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:48 AM
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The parkway in summer sucks but don't worry I will hook you up with the back roads. Plus you will be staying a cab ride away with an ocean front room at the Long Branch Pier..The traffic only sucks in the morning.. Monmouth really could be an awesome boutique meet. Let SPA run 4 NY bred races 2 stakes 2 Mdn Spl and claimer turf sprint. Monmouth willtake the allowance, opt claimers. claimers and stake here or there
Can you also do something about the biased track?
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:56 AM
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Can you also do something about the biased track?
Believe it or not... the MTH track is pretty fair most days. Favors the inside sometimes but a lot of times it's pretty straightforward.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:57 AM
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Can you also do something about the biased track?
why? You like Keeneland better now.. Maybe we should changethe moniker to Ms. Fat Man?
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why? You like Keeneland better now.. Maybe we should changethe moniker to Ms. Fat Man?
If I ever get fat take me outside and shoot me.
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Old 03-03-2010, 09:55 AM
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Shoot you because of a few extra lbs? It's all good
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If I ever get fat take me outside and shoot me.
dont knock it til ya try it.
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Old 03-06-2010, 11:10 AM
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New Jersey plan: high risk, high reward
By Matt Hegarty

Horsemen and racetracks in the Northeast are anxiously waiting to hear whether the state of New Jersey plans to press forward with a plan that would triple purses at Monmouth Park during a boutique 50-day race meet this summer, a high-risk proposal that could have dramatic effects on the racing landscape.

Although the plan is subject to change and may not even be implemented, many New Jersey officials who support the proposal call it a potential "revolution." Under the proposal, Monmouth Park would offer $1 million in purses each day - tops in the U.S. - while holding live racing only on days the track can expect to draw thousands of casual customers from the throngs that surge to the Jersey Shore during summer Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays. The meet would run from late May until Labor Day and most significantly affect meets at Belmont Park and Saratoga Race Course by drawing horses from the two New York tracks.

The proposal underlines dramatic changes taking place in Thoroughbred racing as a result of precipitous drops over the last 18 months in handle, purses, and the foal crop. To stand out on a national landscape cluttered with racetrack-casinos offering subsidized purses and extended live meets, many racing officials say, non-subsidized tracks will have to adopt plans similar to the Monmouth Park proposal, even if it means disrupting traditional circuits.

"We need to figure out ways for horseracing to survive, and not only to survive, but ways for horseracing to thrive in New Jersey," said Tom Swales, the president of the Thoroughbred Breeders' Association of New Jersey, an organization involved in the negotiations over the 2010 Monmouth Park meet. "This is one avenue."

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Old 03-06-2010, 11:11 AM
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There likely will be an announcement or press conference regarding the plan Monday.
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Believe it or not... the MTH track is pretty fair most days. Favors the inside sometimes but a lot of times it's pretty straightforward.
I'm sorry, fair?

While I don't have any statistics to support this (which I am sure I will be ripped for), and I don't really feel like spending the hours to research it, I would have to say just from watching racing there for the past 20 + years that you want to be on the lead at this place. While it's not the inner merry-go-round at Ozone Park, it is very close IMO.

If you don't have early quicks, don't bother coming.
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:24 AM
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I'm sorry, fair?

While I don't have any statistics to support this (which I am sure I will be ripped for), and I don't really feel like spending the hours to research it, I would have to say just from watching racing there for the past 20 + years that you want to be on the lead at this place. While it's not the inner merry-go-round at Ozone Park, it is very close IMO.

If you don't have early quicks, don't bother coming.
I do have statistics to support it.
I researched 5 years of results and the average position of the winner at the 2nd call for the winner was almost exactly the same as Belmont Park and Aqueduct (about 2.5 lengths off the pace.)
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Old 03-08-2010, 09:30 AM
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I do have statistics to support it.
I researched 5 years of results and the average position of the winner at the 2nd call for the winner was almost exactly the same as Belmont Park and Aqueduct (about 2.5 lengths off the pace.)
For that matter, in the same post a reference was made to the inner "merry-go-round" which anyone who follows NY racing day in and day out knows hasn't been around since Glen Kozak took over, with the exception of a few days each meet.

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Old 03-09-2010, 07:55 AM
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http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...monmouth-dates

Most important thing I grabbed from the article was the last sentence

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Total handle would probably have to double to support purses.
Yeah, and where is that gonna come from. Whoa
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:01 AM
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you are right on. this might help but double the handle? that seems like pie in the sky at this time. are they accounting for losing some every day bettors and horsemen? this will be a better product but i highly doubt they will double the handle or even come close to that. plus, all the racing time they lose. people are worried (at other venues)but i think other tracks will attract some of their horses. people only make money when they run thier horses. but, then again this may be the way the industry is going, seeing that they are all losing, they got to try something which is a start. if it does work out, other states will have to look at this. but double the handle in this economy with all the gambling places.....c'mon
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