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Old 02-01-2008, 04:31 PM
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Kobe is nowhere near the skill level of Jordan. Of course their skill set is going to be the same, THEY PLAY THE SAME POSTION - DUH. There are tons of players in the NBA with the same skill sets of Jordan and Kobe, but the talent is what makes the difference. Jordan made everyone around him better--Kobe hasnt not reached that point in his career and probably never will.
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My one sports regret was not seeing Jordan more live. the only game I ever went to was in the 88-89 playoffs against the Knicks. And the old Stadium isn't like the UC where there isn't a bad seat in the joint, I was only 10, and couldn't see a damn thing.
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:34 PM
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Did you just say that Cartwright had good touch? Come on now....

I'll agree regarding the Grant/Rodman debate, but Walton is Kukoc

I am going to sit on the Pippen/Oden comparsion, I was never a fan of Pippen, thought he was a douche bag thus I probably devalue him, especially defensively
Cartwright shot 52% from the field for his career and 77% from the free throw line for his career. Those numbers are pretty darn good.
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:35 PM
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My one sports regret was not seeing Jordan more live. the only game I ever went to was in the 88-89 playoffs against the Knicks. And the old Stadium isn't like the UC where there isn't a bad seat in the joint, I was only 10, and couldn't see a damn thing.
I was lucky and had Pacers season tickets from 1985 to 2002 so I got to see Jordan many times. It was a real real treat.
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:36 PM
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Cartwright shot 52% from the field for his career and 77% from the free throw line for his career. Those numbers are pretty darn good.
HE WAS 7'2 and didn't have to jump to dunk because his knuckles dragged when he walked. 52% aint **** when you are that big.....
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:44 PM
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HE WAS 7'2 and didn't have to jump to dunk because his knuckles dragged when he walked. 52% aint **** when you are that big.....
Oh good lord. You really have no clue do you. Wilt (The greatest center to ever play the game) shot 54% from the field in his career. Just because you are tall doesnt make it any easier.
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:57 PM
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Oh good lord. You really have no clue do you. Wilt (The greatest center to ever play the game) shot 54% from the field in his career. Just because you are tall doesnt make it any easier.
All Cartright did was block hook shots and dunks. Wilt had face up game, at least from what I have seen on ESPN Classic
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:11 PM
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Lakers are 9-1 to win the championship this year. I might take them.
What site?
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:11 PM
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All Cartright did was block hook shots and dunks. Wilt had face up game, at least from what I have seen on ESPN Classic
Seriously, you really have no idea what you are talking about. Cartwright only avg 0.6 blocks a game. He has a great turn-around J and played entirely with his back to the basket. He would do the turn-around j or would face up his man.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:15 PM
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9-1 is not too bad at all. Phoenix and Dallas arent really playing all that well. The Spurs may not have it this year. New Orleans is the leader of the west--imagine that. So $20 on the Lakers at 9-1 might be a good bet.
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I'm biased because I'm a fan, but if Bynum comes back playing like he was before he got hurt, I think they're the team to beat in the west.
I am really impressed with Bynum. No wonder they didnt want to give him up for Kidd. And I agree with you, if Bynum comes back healthy then they are the team to beat (in the west).
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:44 PM
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I'm biased because I'm a fan, but if Bynum comes back playing like he was before he got hurt, I think they're the team to beat in the west.
Liking the Lakers is one thing we agree on. I can't remember, are you a Niners fan as well?

Anway, Lakers should be the favorite in the west now for sure.
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Old 02-01-2008, 07:30 PM
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Did you just say that Cartwright had good touch? Come on now....

I'll agree regarding the Grant/Rodman debate, but Walton is Kukoc

I am going to sit on the Pippen/Oden comparsion, I was never a fan of Pippen, thought he was a douche bag thus I probably devalue him, especially defensively
Cartwright was an excellent mid range shooter. That was his whole offensive game. He is like a black Ilgaukaus. Walton is not Kukoc. The only they have in common is that they are both white. Walton is a pass first player who plays a little d and tries to play a role. Kukoc was strictly a one dimensional shooter. Pippen may have been a douche bag but he was a tremendous defender.
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Old 02-01-2008, 07:32 PM
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Kobe is nowhere near the skill level of Jordan. Of course their skill set is going to be the same, THEY PLAY THE SAME POSTION - DUH. There are tons of players in the NBA with the same skill sets of Jordan and Kobe, but the talent is what makes the difference. Jordan made everyone around him better--Kobe hasnt not reached that point in his career and probably never will.
Kobe most certainly has a similar skill level as Jordan. Jordan made everyone better once the rest of the players were better. Funny how that works.
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HE WAS 7'2 and didn't have to jump to dunk because his knuckles dragged when he walked. 52% aint **** when you are that big.....
He was not 7'2". He had a nice face up jumper from the baseline.
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He was not 7'2". He had a nice face up jumper from the baseline.
He's no Bob McAdoo
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Old 02-01-2008, 10:03 PM
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He was not 7'2". He had a nice face up jumper from the baseline.
How would he have a fade away, HE NEVER LEFT HIS FEET.

Now I have a mean fade away.
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Old 02-01-2008, 10:04 PM
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Kobe most certainly has a similar skill level as Jordan. Jordan made everyone better once the rest of the players were better. Funny how that works.
I was going to say this exact thing but I gave up on the fight......Jordan had a bunch of specialists around him, his all around game was enough to compensate for their faults
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Old 02-01-2008, 10:17 PM
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Jordan's hands are absolutely enormous.
The jumping ability, stop on a dime,
ability to make tough shots all the same.

But Jordan's hands give him a big advantage
over Kobe. ANd the fact that Jordan did not
give a crap who was on his team and how much
he scored as long as they won.

Phil Jackson should get some sort of medal
for keeping this crybaby patient.

Lakers still lack a point thank God.
This does elevate them.
A steal of a trade.
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How would he have a fade away, HE NEVER LEFT HIS FEET.

Now I have a mean fade away.
Reading is fundemental. Where does it say fade away? face=fade?
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