Curlin's my offical top pick

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by GPK

Got over 10-1....hope you hammered.

I like the guy. I hope he hit the exacta really hard. He did not, however, get 8-1. He got 9 to 2, or maybe just slightly higher if he weighted the bets to get equal return.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I like the guy. I hope he hit the exacta really hard. He did not, however, get 8-1. He got 9 to 2, or maybe just slightly higher if he weighted the bets to get equal return.

You are right....I am wrong. I was just considering a straight Curlin/SS exacta. Forgot he was gonna use Hard Spun as well. 9/2 is a far cry from 8/1. 9/2 still aint bad if he hammered it and didnt bet Curlin at 3/1

[pmacdaddy]

Split bets with pointman, both liked Curlin, but he nailed the race (win, tri, super). Thanks brother!!

Here is text of e-mail I sent him during Post Parade. Should have doubled down...LOL

"Nick,

Curlin just took a massive dump, he has to win..."

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I'm probably not going to have a win bet on any horse in the Preakness---but, if I do decide to make one, it would be on Curlin...if he's better than 4/1.

Like I said though, no self-respecting bettor could possibly play Street Sense off the kind of trips he's built his mighty repute with.

My entire betting strategy focuses on my steadfast opinion that Street Sense hangs through the final 1/8th, and finishes underneath, and that only another act-of-god trip prevents that from happening.

I have long distained Circular Quay---Hard Spun and Curlin are the two remaining horses in the race who aren't complete and utter dog biscuits.

So, for the record, it's Curlin for me---but, from a betting standpoint, I will try to lock up 8/1 odds on a Curlin/HS over SS exacta.

Nice call!

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Thank You guys.

I did a lot of talking....and you're going to be wrong a lot in this game---but the egg is on your face when you're the one talking the loudest and you lose.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Enjoy your 22 dollar exacta. Buy a beer and a bag of chips. Enjoy!!

Serling told me a great story when I went downstairs to visit him at Saratoga last year---he was at a table with a son of W. T. Young, Steve Crist, and some other influential breeding person...

Anyway, they start talking about Flower Alley, and I guess Andy didn't know off the top of his head that Distorted Humor was FA's sire.

Anyway, so they start talking about Distorted Humor, and Andy recalls a time he caught him to win (down at GP I believe) and he paid $36 for the win. So, W. T. Young's son says something like "wait, so everyone remembers this horse for all the good foals he's sired....and you remember him because he won you $36?" Andy says "No....it was actually $8.20...I bet him to show."

Obviously I made a little more than $22 on this race....I bet that exacta backwheel about as heavily as I've bet an exacta backwheel in as long as I can remember.

But yeah---if I got loud and annoying for a week or two before this race--I'm sorry....but I really, really, really was obsessed with this race. Complete obsession.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Honestly for as stubborn as DrugS was after the Derby, he was right today. The dude knows his s hit. No need to be sour.

Not sour hoss....but just because he was a blowhard all week doesn't mean
he's an expert. Blah...blah...blah

[GPK]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Honestly for as stubborn as DrugS was after the Derby, he was right today. The dude knows his s hit. No need to be sour.

Well said Jay. I dont always agree with 100% of what he says....but he puts his opinions out there....gives rational reasoning behind them....and stands firmly behind them. I will always respect that.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by GPK

speaking that way to a fellow Sox fan is uncalled for....

Won game 1 against the mighty Braves!!!

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Aren't you the guy that started not 1, but 2 threads congratulating your buddy for picking an exacta. You are coming off very jealous right now.

Well that was 20 horses...and 96 dollars Hoss..But you are right..prob. a little bitter, but I'm more willing to shake the hand of a guy who can give me a 12/1 shot.Example...hooves...steve....etc...anyone can give out chalk on a chalky day. Think about it.

[Buffymommy]

I had Curlin today, but he won't be my Belmont pick.

Good call DrugS. My hubby is pissed at me because I didn't make him go bet today. He actually called me during my riding lesson to yell at me because I picked the tri and he was mad. (He saw my notes on our desk after the race.) He left me quite a voice mail.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

I'm not going to give him ANY CREDIT WHATSOEVER. He is a blowhard and thats that.

I'm wounded.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

As amusing as our little squabble has been, you're right, enough is enough. First, don't you think it's obvious I have issues, thanks for stating the obvious. Don't we all have issues? I mean, your buddy's 43 and he spent 3 hours yesterday waiting in line for Rowdy Roddy Pipers autograph. That's issues.

They Live is the greatest movie of all time.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Hoss....C'mon be honest with yourself...Would you please? There was bitterness...Did you read? I admittted that. Several times I came back and aplogized for stupid comments. My point was I'm not impressed with someone that can pick the morning line Derby favorite and second choice in the Preakness. The Wager is also questionable. A heavy backwheel? It worked for him....great! Why didn't you stand up to him. You're a Street Sense fan. He knocked him all week.

The point that you seem to be missing, is that nobody who likes Street Sense was enjoying the way Drugs was presenting his position, but the fact remains that no one person can lay out (in advance) how a race will be run and be any more right than he was.

I don't like Drugs all the time, but give credit where credit is due. Picking winners is picking winners, whether they are 2-5 or 80-1. Not only did he flat out say that he knew Street Sense would finish second, but he explained exactly how it was going to happen, with Street Sense relinquishing the lead late to one of two horses. One cannot be much more prophetic about how a race is going to unfold, and one cannot be more adamant that they are going to be right.

While you may not have taken a liking to the way Drugs presented this information in advance (and I didn't either, to boot, and also thought he was flat out wrong), there is little doubt that he saw this coming.

The prices of the horses doesn't matter, he laid out the race scenario and it unfolded exactly like he thought it would. What's so hard about swalling some pride and just saying "good call" instead of moaning about the exotics payouts? I'm less concerned with how much money he made in congratulating him than I am with how spot-on he was with his analysis.

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Hoss....C'mon be honest with yourself...Would you please? There was bitterness...Did you read? I admittted that. Several times I came back and aplogized for stupid comments. My point was I'm not impressed with someone that can pick the morning line Derby favorite and second choice in the Preakness. The Wager is also questionable. A heavy backwheel? It worked for him....great! Why didn't you stand up to him. You're a Street Sense fan. He knocked him all week. As far as the other stuff Hoss..you simply don't want to accept the E-Street gang. You have a problem with Fort Plain in general. We've tried to form a connection with you but you have serious issues with us. It's nice to have friends. I wouldn't trade those guys and the rest of our buddies who are not members of this board. It sure beats going to an OTB by yourself. So reach up your as s and take the bug out or just don't pay attention to me or any of us. Me personally would not go the the Pro wrestling thing, but knock a guy for doing something he enjoys? Wow..that's low...real low. I really hope you are not bitter in person.

ROFL. That's gangsta.

You can't make this sh.it up.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Stand up to him? What is this high school? Stop being so dramatic, I've been going back and forth with DrugS about it for a month. I have no interest in dissecting his wager because it was right, so why should i dissect it?

I have no problem with Fort Plain, although that is probably the funniest thing you wrote. I don't even know where Fort Plain is. Look, this is gotten way over the top. I think it's best we just ignore each other.

And I am this bitter in real life.

Fair enough. I would like to meet you...not to fight. Maybe have a cold one and hit a pick-3. I really hope you are not this bitter, but c'mon that was a low blow to Hoffy. You can bash me all you want, but You'd be hard pressed to find a nicer guy than hoffy. How can you not lie a guy who drinks Miller beer?

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Aren't you the guy that started not 1, but 2 threads congratulating your buddy for picking an exacta. You are coming off very jealous right now.

If I'm the guy your talking about...I did SAY that it was a triple box of the three Derby finishers (see the earlier post here)
Chalk or not, it WAS a very good week DaHoss! Had $50 in my phone-a-bet a week ago...it NOW stands at $600!!!
Congrats to ALL that cashed today! How did you do????

[ninetoone]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I'm probably not going to have a win bet on any horse in the Preakness---but, if I do decide to make one, it would be on Curlin...if he's better than 4/1.
Like I said though, no self-respecting bettor could possibly play Street Sense off the kind of trips he's built his mighty repute with.

My entire betting strategy focuses on my steadfast opinion that Street Sense hangs through the final 1/8th, and finishes underneath, and that only another act-of-god trip prevents that from happening.

I have long distained Circular Quay---Hard Spun and Curlin are the two remaining horses in the race who aren't complete and utter dog biscuits.

So, for the record, it's Curlin for me---but, from a betting standpoint, I will try to lock up 8/1 odds on a Curlin/HS over SS exacta.

Good call, but did you bet him? He wasn't 4-1...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I did not have a win bet on him.

Street Sense was a mortal lock to run underneath if Curlin won, and far far more likely for 2nd than 3rd place...because of pace scenerios...so I just tried to better my odds a little.

I was hoping Curlin would have the seperation on Street Sense so he didn't get drowned by his move....honestly, even though I was convinced SS would hang...I was never a confident man when he blew by Curlin...and I only didn't think I could win until the 1/16th pole...at that point I thought I'd probably nab him.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I did not have a win bet on him.

Street Sense was a mortal lock to run underneath if Curlin won, and far far more likely for 2nd than 3rd place...because of pace scenerios...so I just tried to better my odds a little.

I was hoping Curlin would have the seperation on Street Sense so he didn't get drowned by his move....honestly, even though I was convinced SS would hang...I was never a confident man when he blew by Curlin...and I only didn't think I could win until the 1/16th pole...at that point I thought I'd probably nab him.

In the end, there was no way Street Sense wasn't running 1-2. Since your strong opinion was the Street Sense was a bad bet on top, the best bet was to play him underneath the only two with a chance to beat him. You did just that. Congrats. I see no reason for any of the bashing here.