Pick out your preferred seating for Keeneland Cup '15..

[Arletta]

I still can't believe they picked this place to host a BC

[Sightseek]

I would rather freeze my dupa off in general admission at Belmont than pay mucho dinero for a no track view with 1,000 of my new BFFs.

[MaTH716]

My couch

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

My couch

Seems like the powers that be in KY decided to throw a private party to celebrate their new old surface. Good old boys network is tough to beat IF you belong. I figure it will be awesome IF you have the juice to get involved correctly. Save that, watch on TV, which is exactly what serves the folks that made this selection.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Seems like the powers that be in KY decided to throw a private party to celebrate their new old surface. Good old boys network is tough to beat IF you belong. I figure it will be awesome IF you have the juice to get involved correctly. Save that, watch on TV, which is exactly what serves the folks that made this selection.

Agree, it has the feel of a elite social event that's going to cater to A-listers and the red carpet crowd. Meanwhile, what the sport needs is new blood and more importantly new gamblers. Unfortunately, I would think that they are going to opt to stay away from the track (for various reasons) that day.

[DaTruth]

I guess there won't be paddock access if you are in one of the tent cities.

[Danzig]

i was eager to go...now, not so much. just don't see how it would be possible.
i can imagine the ticket prices, so i guess i'll be watching from home.
may just go to another track near here and play it from a less crowded place.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Agree, it has the feel of a elite social event that's going to cater to A-listers and the red carpet crowd. Meanwhile, what the sport needs is new blood and more importantly new gamblers. Unfortunately, I would think that they are going to opt to stay away from the track (for various reasons) that day.

now what would you know about an "elite social event ?"

this isn't you and 4 hillbillies sitting around drinking moonshine and smoking cigarettes type of "elite social event "

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by Arletta

I still can't believe they picked this place to host a BC

whats the deal there, is it way smaller than santa anita?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

whats the deal there, is it way smaller than santa anita?

I think the Keeneland grandstand could fit into Santa Anita's 3 or 4 times.

[Calzone Lord]

The Breeders' Cup (Saturday) has long been the greatest betting day in all of Horse Racing.

I have no desire at all, to ever see one in person.

It's a day for laptop computers with fast internet-connections, a personal TV, and a comfortable seat. I can get that for free, in multiple places.

Keeneland has very low takeout rates, especially on exotic wagers.

From my perspective, I don't care about crowd size. An almost private social party of 15k industry elite is fine with me. To me, a large crowd serves no purpose, other than to perhaps stir up a few horses.

When I hear "Breeders' Cup at Keeneland" -- I think about the 19% takeout on trifectas, superfectas, pick 3's, pick 4's -- that's not a bad thing.

You'd think the Offshore places that rebate have to be hating this. Some of them offer 8% rebates on all-exotic wagers. No exotic wager at Keeneland has a rake over 19%.

[blackthroatedwind]

Some people like going to the BC, Doug.

[Calzone Lord]

I know. But the vast majority of racing fans and bettors aren't going to go anyway.

And, if you don't have any interest in going, or you don't go, Keeneland is a great place for it.

Europeans will be comfortable shipping there as well. It would probably be their second preference to Belmont.

[Aly-Sheba]

I have never been to Keenland, but why couldn't they build in some type of access to the infield , so they can put in a bunch more temp seats? That's one advantage Del Mar has since they do have access.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I know. But the vast majority of racing fans and bettors aren't going to go anyway.

And, if you don't have any interest in going, or you don't go, Keeneland is a great place for it.

Europeans will be comfortable shipping there as well. It would probably be their second preference to Belmont.

You're missing the point. The BC was ( at least partially ) created to showcase great racing at tracks all around the country so that people in various places could see the best horses compete. While I agree that Keeneland is a great theater to hold the event, it is not necessarily a great choice from the standpoint of fans attending.

God forbid it is cold and rainy. There is no tougher track in those conditions. There is very little enclosed space. Plus, the paddock area has very little room on the outside for viewing.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Some people like going to the BC, Doug.

went in 86 And 87 it was pretty cool. the only bad thing was large win wagers on Turkoman And Alysheba in the classic.

[GPK]

No need to be on site at Keenland. I will have me feet kicked up at the Caccamise mansion.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Some people like going to the BC, Doug.

It's all about DrugS 24/7.

[ne to socal]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The Breeders' Cup (Saturday) has long been the greatest betting day in all of Horse Racing.

I have no desire at all, to ever see one in person.

It's a day for laptop computers with fast internet-connections, a personal TV, and a comfortable seat. I can get that for free, in multiple places.

After having been to two BC I am now in agreement with your statement.

I really really enjoyed 2009's BC at Santa Anita.

The 2012 edition, markedly less. I feel like I saw the trajectory the BC was following as far as putting on a live event (maximizing every square inch of revenue-generating real estate at the track) and it's not for me. It's not just a matter of becoming too expensive to attend, but they're carving up the access and seating in ways which really aren;t appealing to me.

Last year I hosted a very nice food/booze/betting fest at my place and I will do the same this year.

[dylbert]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I think the Keeneland grandstand could fit into Santa Anita's 3 or 4 times.

If weather turns wet, there is not much cover. My only trip there was rainy Sunday last October. Glad that attendance was low that afternoon.

Watching from home or OTB with friends.