3 Dead 23 Wounded in 10 hrs. of battle

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

https://www2.illinois.gov/idoc/.../m...er.aspx‎

Search. Illinois Department of Corrections ... Average Annual Cost Per Inmate: $20,507 (FY12) ... Menard Correctional Center's Visiting Rules and Regulations.

Yes and I can link a study showing that the actual costs are $38,000/year.

But I'm not the one insinuating that putting these "gangbangers" in prison en masse is going to solve the problem of gun violence.

It simply won't.

Especially considering that the majority of these gangs originated and were funded by people who didn't live in Illinois.

And this isn't like the movie Minority Report where there's a "pre-crime" division. Come on now.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Yes and I can link a study showing that the actual costs are $38,000/year.

But I'm not the one insinuating that putting these "gangbangers" in prison en masse is going to solve the problem of gun violence.

It simply won't.

Especially considering that the majority of these gangs originated and were funded by people who didn't live in Illinois.

And this isn't like the movie Minority Report where there's a "pre-crime" division. Come on now.

I see 38 and go all in

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/ny...tudy-says.html


My point is you can find a "study" to support anything,.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

I see 38 and go all in

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/ny...tudy-says.html


My point is you can find a "study" to support anything,.

Hey karaoke, salsa lessons, drama lessons, paint and new release movies all cost money.

Hopefully there's outrage in NYC this morning.

http://nypost.com/2014/05/05/accused...ushy-bellevue/

[dellinger63]

I guess getting coverage, outside of Chicago, late is better than never. Thankfully the author NAILS it.

Only 80 people shot and 14 killed this weekend.

You would think that trying to find ways to combat it would be an obsession of liberals who profess to care about the welfare of our cities, but all their energy is devoted to income inequality, global warming and other fashionable causes.

And the drumbeat of murder in a great American city goes on.

http://nypost.com/2014/07/07/whats-b...cagos-carnage/

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I guess getting coverage, outside of Chicago, late is better than never. Thankfully the author NAILS it.

Only 80 people shot and 14 killed this weekend.



http://nypost.com/2014/07/07/whats-b...cagos-carnage/

And the do-nothing mayor was recently the White house Chief of Staff.

But I'm sure the root cause of all of it all is Fox News/ G.W. Bush/ Racists picking on the President/ and of course, OMG WE NEED MORE GUN LAWS!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/c...-gun-violence/

UPDATE:
The mayor HAS chimed in - he says the violence is “senseless” and “totally unacceptable”

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...o-july-weekend

Unbelievable. Incompetency run amok.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

And the do-nothing mayor was recently the White house Chief of Staff.

But I'm sure the root cause of all of it all is Fox News/ G.W. Bush/ Racists picking on the President/ and of course, OMG WE NEED MORE GUN LAWS!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/c...-gun-violence/

UPDATE:
The mayor HAS chimed in - he says the violence is “senseless” and “totally unacceptable”

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...o-july-weekend



Unbelievable. Incompetency run amok.

I don't think you can put blame on the mayor as his minimum-mandatory sentencing plan for gun crimes was shut down by politicians representing the same communities the violence is occurring, calling the plan racist.

The people in the neighborhood know who the gangbangers are, so do the police and so does Jesse Jackson, politicians et al.

The people live in fear of reprisal as they live with the gangbangers while the police can't stop and search or even count on prosecutors and judges to do their job to the fullest because of Jesse Jackson et al protecting the bangers under the guise of racism.

It's a classic case of FUBAR and the cries for stricter gun laws in a city with the strictest gun laws constantly affirms that.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I don't think you can put blame on the mayor as his minimum-mandatory sentencing plan for gun crimes was shut down by politicians representing the same communities the violence is occurring, calling the plan racist.

Ridiculous. He is the Mayor of the city, he has a responsibility to call out representatives of these communities responsible for upholding laws detrimental to the citizenry of the city. Perhaps Rahm should put a call into his buddy in the White House, you'd have to admit the guy has got a knack for bypassing those pesky legislators.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Yes and I can link a study showing that the actual costs are $38,000/year..

Of course you can find a study however the IL Department of Corrections is the number I'll go with.

Originally Posted by Pants II

But I'm not the one insinuating that putting these "gangbangers" in prison en masse is going to solve the problem of gun violence...

I'm not either, just pointing out cost is not a factor when you consider the costs already being incurred. Many of the gangbangers are technically wanna-be's who w/o the influence of the gang may very well lead productive, crime free lives.

Originally Posted by Pants II

Especially considering that the majority of these gangs originated and were funded by people who didn't live in Illinois....

Long before the Crips and Bloods were the Black P Stone Rangers/El Rukns (Jeff Fort) in the late 50's, the Latin Kings (Luis Felipe) 1940's and the Gangster Disciples (Larry Hoover) early 70's. All were founded in Chicago.

The P Stones (bricks) and Latin Kings formed an alliance back in the late 70's-early 80's calling themselves the People's Nation to fight the ever expanding Disciples and its Folk Nation. They have been at war ever since. So when a Latin Disciple comes across a Latin King it's a problem and grounds for murder because one is Folk and one is People and THAT IS ALL IT TAKES nothing to do with race or anything else.

[dellinger63]

BTW Final stats for the w/e were 4 dead and 35 wounded.