3 Dead 23 Wounded in 10 hrs. of battle

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

NO!

LESS guns - MORE understanding *Organizes a Kumbaya drum circle with GBBob here for the next four weeks*:

http://news.yahoo.com/four-chicago-n...213400258.html

No..not really, but I'm not sure what Steve's point either is in posting weekly stats about what sadly occurs in certain neighborhoods. Yeah..if there were no guns, there would be knives and rocks and bats, but a lot less inncocent kids would be killed. Otherwise, besides less or no guns, what is the answer? Build more jails? Agreed..Federal Funds needed though. Longer sentencing? Sure..back to more jails though. I'm not naive, nor Liberal enough to think what you guys think I might, but I sure would love to hear some answers instead of smarmy comebacks.

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by GBBob

No..not really, but I'm not sure what Steve's point either is in posting weekly stats about what sadly occurs in certain neighborhoods. Yeah..if there were no guns, there would be knives and rocks and bats, but a lot less inncocent kids would be killed. Otherwise, besides less or no guns, what is the answer? Build more jails? Agreed..Federal Funds needed though. Longer sentencing? Sure..back to more jails though. I'm not naive, nor Liberal enough to think what you guys think I might, but I sure would love to hear some answers instead of smarmy comebacks.

More guns needed..



Do as I say not as I do, eh?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Pants II

More guns needed..



Do as I say not as I do, eh?

Yeah...I did think about that one a little late. Point taken

[jms62]

I vote that we can have as many guns as we would like however I'd also like to see tougher back ground checks and Mandatory Minimums for any crime involving guns. Hell Plaxico Burress did time for shooting himself.

[Pants II]

Building more prisons = tax burden

Addressing poverty and how currently it's advantageous for the poor to have children would be a much better start.

But then again it's much easier to be spineless and harass the lawful citizens with guns than it is to address real problems.

[cabvmd]

I am so glad my Nephew and family moved out of that city.

I was worried all the time of them getting caught in the cross fire in the "War Zone" of that city.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Building more prisons = tax burden.

Shootings in the City of Chicago reportedly cost $2.5 billion per year.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...at-bleeds.html

In Illinois it costs $25K/year to house a prisoner.

Chicago reportedly has 70,000 gang members and those 70K are responsible for the vast majority of gun crimes.

Devise a plan to target and lock up the worse 10% or 7,000 bangers. At 25K per year the plan would cost 175 million or 7% of the money lost every year to the cost of shootings.

BTW Locking up all 70K would run $1.75 billion a year or 70% of the yearly cost of just shootings. Add on the ancillary costs of housing, feeding and schooling the bangers on the outside not to mention the property they steal and damage, the classrooms and neighborhoods they disrupt and trash it would seem a no-brainer financially. When you consider the innocent lives saved it seems irresponsible not to.

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Shootings in the City of Chicago reportedly cost $2.5 billion per year.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...at-bleeds.html

In Illinois it costs $25K/year to house a prisoner.

Chicago reportedly has 70,000 gang members and those 70K are responsible for the vast majority of gun crimes.

Devise a plan to target and lock up the worse 10% or 7,000 bangers. At 25K per year the plan would cost 175 million or 7% of the money lost every year to the cost of shootings.

BTW Locking up all 70K would run $1.75 billion a year or 70% of the yearly cost of just shootings. Add on the ancillary costs of housing, feeding and schooling the bangers on the outside not to mention the property they steal and damage, the classrooms and neighborhoods they disrupt and trash it would seem a no-brainer financially. When you consider the innocent lives saved it seems irresponsible not to.

25k a year? Pffffft.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GBBob

No..not really, but I'm not sure what Steve's point either is in posting weekly stats about what sadly occurs in certain neighborhoods.

It's meant to serve as a point of reference to what are true problems, that occur weekly, but are ignored for some reason.

You as well as I know it's a gangbanging problem, nothing less and nothing more. Until the self-appointed African American/Hispanic leaders bearing false witness are replaced with actual role models the gangbangers will be protected and falsely projected as victims of the system. Meanwhile the poor, innocent people forced to live in the gang infested neighborhoods will suffer along with the occasional lost tourist.

Unfortunate almost every kid in the city knows who Jesse Jackson and family is but no one knows Donald Thompson. And some here, namely Danzig vilify the man as some greedy capitalist when in fact he was he kid who grew up around Cabrini, made it through Purdue's engineering school and then went on to work his way through the ranks of McDonalds before becoming the company's CEO.

But like ties in kids sports, no valedictorians in high schools, pass or fail as opposed to grades, mediocrity is the new measure of success and a cheating religious leader with felons as children makes for a much better role model of mediocrity than does a self-made CEO who despite growing up amongst the gangbanging, succeeded with pen and paper and not a ball in his hand.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GBBob

No..not really, but I'm not sure what Steve's point either is in posting weekly stats about what sadly occurs in certain neighborhoods. Yeah..if there were no guns, there would be knives and rocks and bats, but a lot less inncocent kids would be killed. Otherwise, besides less or no guns, what is the answer? Build more jails? Agreed..Federal Funds needed though. Longer sentencing? Sure..back to more jails though. I'm not naive, nor Liberal enough to think what you guys think I might, but I sure would love to hear some answers instead of smarmy comebacks.

Because Bob, before you get an answer you have to fully comprehend the question you are asking. It's not simply cause and effect. Gang-related crime is rampant for a reason - solve the reason and solve the problem. Unless the "problem solvers" are profiting from the reason- then it may go on for decades upon decades...

oh wait...

[GenuineRisk]

Interestingly enough, this radio call ostensibly about Donald Sterling brought up the Chicago shootings:

http://deadspin.com/in-10-minutes-es...ste-1569195989

Great listen.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Interestingly enough, this radio call ostensibly about Donald Sterling brought up the Chicago shootings:

http://deadspin.com/in-10-minutes-es...ste-1569195989

Great listen.

And all along I thought my parents moved us out of Chicago so we could have a yard.

The most recent Chicago murder involved a 14 year old girl killing another 14 year old girl over a boy with a gun furnished by the killer's 34-year old Uncle. The uncle who is paralyzed from a 2010 shooting, allegedly cleared the gun for his niece and handed it back to her after it didn't fire the first time and to cap it all off the entire episode was captured on a cell video.

To make things worse the murder of the woman he speaks of, Leonore Draper, looks more like she was targeted, because of her anti-violence/gang activities.