Andrew Luck

[jms62]

Originally Posted by JJP

In his previous statement when he stated Luck's win loss record.

I think Luck is a very good quarterback but I find it silly that his fanboys get so upset at any criticism. I've heard Peyton Manning take tremendous amounts of criticism, I've even heard criticism of Brady's play this year, and more recently, Russell Wilson has taken heat. Its apparently ok to criticize them, but God forbid if anyone points out anything negative about Luck.

You phrase this like Russell Wilson is something special? He is 16th in passing yards and had 2 300 games this year. Averages around 209 yds a game. IMO he is a gimmick QB with a short career span. Any QB relying so much on his legs won't be around long be it Defenses figuring it out, him taking a big hit or father time catching up with him.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by jms62

You phrase this like Russell Wilson is something special? He is 16th in passing yards and had 2 300 games this year. Averages around 209 yds a game. IMO he is a gimmick QB with a short career span. Any QB relying so much on his legs won't be around long be it Defenses figuring it out, him taking a big hit or father time catching up with him.

Passing yardage is the most overrated stat of all. Passing efficiency is more important. Wilson had a QB rating of 100 in each of his first two years. Don't know how many QBs have done that. Not very many.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by jms62

You phrase this like Russell Wilson is something special? He is 16th in passing yards and had 2 300 games this year. Averages around 209 yds a game. IMO he is a gimmick QB with a short career span. Any QB relying so much on his legs won't be around long be it Defenses figuring it out, him taking a big hit or father time catching up with him.

Russell Wilson is special! He's a winner.
He's the #1 QB in the NFL on someone's list.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Russell Wilson is special! He's a winner.
He's the #1 QB in the NFL on someone's list.

whoever's list it is isn't fit to be written on toilet paper.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Danzig

whoever's list it is isn't fit to be written on toilet paper.

I love it. Second year in the league. Playoffs both years now Super Bowl champ. Stop hating,

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I love it. Second year in the league. Playoffs both years now Super Bowl champ. Stop hating,

i don't dislike wilson at all. i was only talking about the list.

and this is another example of the qb getting too much credit for a good run. a team has to put it all together to be a consistent top team. a good qb is a part of it, but not all of it. and good teams can do well in spite of a not so good qb. hell, everyone knows denver was loaded-how else explain them making the playoffs with tim tebow?!



and now super bowl champ....getting ahead of yourself a bit.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't dislike wilson at all. i was only talking about the list.

and this is another example of the qb getting too much credit for a good run. a team has to put it all together to be a consistent top team. a good qb is a part of it, but not all of it. and good teams can do well in spite of a not so good qb. hell, everyone knows denver was loaded-how else explain them making the playoffs with tim tebow?!



and now super bowl champ....getting ahead of yourself a bit.

Exactly Zig. Seahawks are champions in spite of not because of Wilson. This team with a QB like Luck would be a dynasty. 20% return betting against them repeating is free money.

[Crown@club]

I'd put Wilson in the top 10 currently, but no way in the top 4. With that said, he was quite efficient on 3rd down in the Super Bowl. 8.25 YPA for the season - 4th high in the league - is nothing to look past. I don't think Seattle has any issue if Wilson is needed to carry a game.

BTW someone mention about Wilson getting lack of hits. 4th most QB sacked this year.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Russell Wilson is special! He's a winner.
He's the #1 QB in the NFL on someone's list.

His mom and the Easter Bunny

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

His mom and the Easter Bunny

My list on this website months before his Super Bowl run.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

My list on this website months before his Super Bowl run.

You are redboarding picking the number 1 seed in the NFC?

[JJP]

Originally Posted by jms62

You phrase this like Russell Wilson is something special? He is 16th in passing yards and had 2 300 games this year. Averages around 209 yds a game. IMO he is a gimmick QB with a short career span. Any QB relying so much on his legs won't be around long be it Defenses figuring it out, him taking a big hit or father time catching up with him.

BTW, how many hard hits has this "one hit wonder" taken? Not many. Unlike some, he knows how to slide. Many of his runs are scrambles, not designed runs. Wilson is smart, and will be a factor in the league for a number of years.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by JJP

BTW, how many hard hits has this "one hit wonder" taken? Not many. Unlike some, he knows how to slide. Many of his runs are scrambles, not designed runs. Wilson is smart, and will be a factor in the league for a number of years.

He will age well. Because he does not get hit and he is not run first. He also has a cannon arm. He proved he is the best in the business.