2013 Hall of Fame Inductees

[Calzone Lord]

Under this 10 finalist and 4 get in format ... the smart thing to do would be to get the deserving old time horses on the ballot.

Hermis isn't in the Hall Of Fame ... here are his accomplishments:

U.S. Champion Three Year Old, 1902.
U. S. Horse of The Year, 1902.
U.S. Champion Handicap Horse, 1903.
U.S. Horse of The Year, 1903.
U.S. Champion Handicap Horse, 1904.
Twice matched Saratoga's track record for 1-1/8 mi

He won 28 of 55 career starts. Horse of the Year at age 3. Horse of the Year at age 4. Won the Suburban and was champion handicap horse at age 5.

At least he will keep a jockeys name off the list.

Esposa is one of the great racemares of all-time. She's not in the Hall of Fame.

I can come up with a lot of horses who would have kept Borel at this year, and more of those jockeys out in the future.

[blackthroatedwind]

I'm confused, there are people that think Craig Perret belongs in the Hall of Fame? Really?

I must be unfamiliar with his record. I am not unfamiliar with his riding.

[keithting]

Speaking of jockeys and the HOF - -

why is Mike Venezia not in?

what about Don MacBeth?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by keithting

Speaking of jockeys and the HOF - -

why is Mike Venezia not in?

what about Don MacBeth?

You forgot Lee Moon.

[PatCummings]

All bets off on HOF inductees once Point Given got in having never faced older horses (and didn't win Triple Crown - which is essentially the only way in which you could avoid open races and still earn admission IMO).

[art vanderlay]

No love for Carl Gambardella? 6,349 wins and $29,389,041 in earnings, which around these parts was quite a fortune.

https://www.equibase.com/profiles/Re...ype=J&eID=675#

[Merlinsky]

How much does a horse from outside the US need to start here for people to seriously consider them for our Hall of Fame? I'm not clear one what it's taken in the past, and I get that a once a year pop into our country for the Breeders' Cup is likely not enough. There are some with extraordinary achievements such as Goldikova who haven't really been here much and yet, those 3 BC wins...Are they their own reward and you just keep on moving when selecting nominees?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

All bets off on HOF inductees once Point Given got in having never faced older horses (and didn't win Triple Crown - which is essentially the only way in which you could avoid open races and still earn admission IMO).

Crack a history book, Pat.

Plenty of horses in the Hall Of Fame who defy your criteria. Start with Northern Dancer and Majestic Prince.

If you win the Preakness, Belmont, Haskell, and Travers, you're probably getting in.

He was a photo finish defeat by Macho Uno away from winning a 2-year-old championship in an above average crop juvenile crop.

It's amazing that people complain more about horses who were genuinely among the very best in a solid crop... than they do about jockeys who were usually about 6th or 7th best in the room at the track they rode at.

Ultimately, the sport is about the horses.

[PeteMugg]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Crack a history book, Pat.

Plenty of horses in the Hall Of Fame who defy your criteria. Start with Northern Dancer and Majestic Prince.

If you win the Preakness, Belmont, Haskell, and Travers, you're probably getting in.

He was a photo finish defeat by Macho Uno away from winning a 2-year-old championship in an above average crop juvenile crop.

It's amazing that people complain more about horses who were genuinely among the very best in a solid crop... than they do about jockeys who were usually about 6th or 7th best in the room at the track they rode at.

Ultimately, the sport is about the horses.

True, but I'd guess a KD win carried a lot of weight for ND and MP.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

All bets off on HOF inductees once Point Given got in having never faced older horses (and didn't win Triple Crown - which is essentially the only way in which you could avoid open races and still earn admission IMO).

maybe it had something to do with the way he drubbed the competition every time he was allowed to. (Attn Gary Stevens;rushing him into suicidal pace in the Derby). The older hosses wouldn't dare run against him.

Invasor was a Hoss of the Year, that probably got him in. Lure and House weren't...just sayin.