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Old 10-30-2012, 07:02 PM
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Powerful Article ... non-political

Watching New York City drown



In 2005, Aaron Naparstek, a writer with the New York Press, published a remarkably prescient piece about the vulnerability of New York City to hurricanes, the flooding that would result along the hundreds of miles of shoreline in the five boroughs—with the water filling the sea-level interior flatlands and washing over the reclaimed swamps of Brooklyn—and the ill-prepared psychology of “a complacent coastal city” where the ocean is not thought of as a threat. Naparstek observed that in fact New York “is behind only Miami and New Orleans on the list of U.S. cities most likely to suffer a major hurricane disaster.” He cited meteorologists and disaster planners with the city’s Office of Emergency of Management who were in consensus “that the metropolitan region is due for a big one. Overdue, in fact.” Mike Lee, then Director of Watch Command at the OEM, told Naparstek that the worst-case hurricane scenario for New York City—in which 30 feet or more of storm surge sweeps over the city in a category 3 storm event—“gives emergency managers serious gastrointestinal distress.” Nicholas Coch, a professor of coastal geology at Queens College, said “The New York City area is the worst possible place for a hurricane to make a landfall.”

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Old 10-31-2012, 10:17 AM
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what a crazy storm. I never really would imagine seeing pictures like I have of the places I spent my childhood. My brother was in hoboken, four feet of water surrounding his apartment (he's fine).

Kudos to the President, Governer Christie, and the mayor of NY, for a job well done so far.
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:07 AM
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Side note..When was the last time the stock market closed for two consecutive days....1884...wow...
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Just spoke with a good friend of mine that still lives "at the shore" (we never used that terminology growing up) and he said that Bay Head and Mantoloking, two very nice old beach towns are still completely under water and what isnt under water is on fire due to a gas leak that they cannot shut down because the valves are under sand or water. I built about 15 homes on those beaches before I moved, they are all destroyed or washed away completely. Very sad.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:53 PM
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Just spoke with a good friend of mine that still lives "at the shore" (we never used that terminology growing up) and he said that Bay Head and Mantoloking, two very nice old beach towns are still completely under water and what isnt under water is on fire due to a gas leak that they cannot shut down because the valves are under sand or water. I built about 15 homes on those beaches before I moved, they are all destroyed or washed away completely. Very sad.
Sorry to hear that. That must hurt.

I understand the waters are horribly contaminated with gasoline, diesel, etc. and people who stayed back are still being asked to evacuate due to risk of fire.
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Breezy Point, Queens photo from the air.

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Breezy Point, Queens photo from the air.

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what a crazy storm. I never really would imagine seeing pictures like I have of the places I spent my childhood. My brother was in hoboken, four feet of water surrounding his apartment (he's fine).

Kudos to the President, Governer Christie, and the mayor of NY, for a job well done so far.
I think it very much premature to give kudos to anyone yet.
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Old 10-31-2012, 02:31 PM
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I think it very much premature to give kudos to anyone yet.
The federal and state responses from the 10 governors so far have been without complaint. What is yours?
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The federal and state responses from the 10 governors so far have been without complaint. What is yours?
Just keep believing that Obama, Christie and Bloomberg are doing a fantastic job because they are telling you that they are.
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whatever

so far they've been doing everything they can. Unless Christie bends over and starts chugging water.

The responses have been good.
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so far they've been doing everything they can. Unless Christie bends over and starts chugging water.

The responses have been good.
They have been doing everything they can? You know this how? Perhaps this is true but you dont know anymore than what you are being told.

Christie is a very good politician. He started campaining for President as the Hurricane hit. Obama couldnt wait to get here for the photo op. Bloomburg is running a marathon on Sunday while hundreds of thousands in his city are without power and food.

The idea that they should get any credit is way premature as things can get very dicey especially since it is getting cold at night and there are a few million people w/o power.
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Just keep believing that Obama, Christie and Bloomberg are doing a fantastic job because they are telling you that they are.
Well, no, you assume wrongly. I'm judging by comments from people affected on Twitter and Facebook. Social media gets you right to the sources more quickly.

This is a huge tragedy/disaster, and yeah, so far so good. Proud of Christie and the other govs for being proactive. Nobody is saying there are not people without water, food, etc.today - but they are just wrapping up search and rescue.
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Well, no, you assume wrongly. I'm judging by comments from people affected on Twitter and Facebook. Social media gets you right to the sources more quickly.

This is a huge tragedy/disaster, and yeah, so far so good. Proud of Christie and the other govs for being proactive. Nobody is saying there are not people without water, food, etc.today - but they are just wrapping up search and rescue.
You keep on reading social media while forgetting that many of the severely affected people didnt have access to social media because they had no power and the phone service in many places is terrible for assorted reasons.

What would the Govs do otherwise? Ignore the storm that they knew was coming for 5 days?
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