You make the call.. Classic or Mile for Wise Dan?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Great turf miler, sure. He wasn't beating POE at 9f derby day. Shame he's hurt now. Look at his last dirt race, he lost to Ron The Greek, who is OK, but no one mistakes for great.

If you know anything about pace, you would know Wise Dan ran terrific in the Foster. He was much the best.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

If you know anything about pace, you would know Wise Dan ran terrific in the Foster. He was much the best.

I saw you're recent post on PA about this. I'll admit I didn't remember it being that hot.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

He wasn't beating POE at 9f derby day.

Yep, pretty sure POE was scratched because they knew he was going to blow the doors off Wise Dan that day and they just felt bad for him.

[Danzig]

i enjoyed wise dan's races last year. hope they try him on dirt at least once again this year.
that said, turf is considered kinder to a horse. and if it ain't broke, don't fix it. hopefully between him and his half-brother, we'll be treated for plenty more good racing, this year and for a few years to come.

[RockHardTen1985]

[quote=cakes44;939844]Yep, pretty sure POE was scratched because they knew he was going to blow the doors off Wise Dan that day and they just felt bad

Thanks for making things up.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by -BT-

you just anointed a horse who scratched the day of, a winner, over reigning horse of the year.

Huh?

Cakes dear... you're gonna have to preface it with some kind of little warning or something next time you're being sarcastic.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Respectfully, I was just wondering if any of you fine gentlemen have changed your mind(s).

I stand by what I said. This horse is a star and could help to market the sport.

If you still think I'm insane that's fine but really... are any of you seeing this at all?

Yea turf milers in grade 2 races are going to market the sport. The horse is really good though, no doubting that. I dont think anyone who doesnt follow racing has even heard of him.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Respectfully, I was just wondering if any of you fine gentlemen have changed your mind(s).

I stand by what I said. This horse is a star and could help to market the sport.

If you still think I'm insane that's fine but really... are any of you seeing this at all?

Yes I think he is a really special horse. I don't know how that would help market the sport.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Respectfully, I was just wondering if any of you fine gentlemen have changed your mind(s).

I stand by what I said. This horse is a star and could help to market the sport.

If you still think I'm insane that's fine but really... are any of you seeing this at all?

Not at all. Nobody disputed the fact that he's a good horse but I don't see him at all as a star. Maybe if they ran him in higher profile races but what they are doing is like saying they have the best player in the league but playing him in the minors instead of the majors.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Not at all. Nobody disputed the fact that he's a good horse but I don't see him at all as a star. Maybe if they ran him in higher profile races but what they are doing is like saying they have the best player in the league but playing him in the minors instead of the majors.

wise dan's wins are minor league? oh boy.

[cakes44]

Was Goldikova "minor league"?

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yes I think he is a really special horse. I don't know how that would help market the sport.

Come on I could come up with a good campaign and so could you!

Originally Posted by cakes44

Yep, pretty sure POE was scratched because they knew he was going to blow the doors off Wise Dan that day and they just felt bad for him.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Not at all. Nobody disputed the fact that he's a good horse but I don't see him at all as a star. Maybe if they ran him in higher profile races but what they are doing is like saying they have the best player in the league but playing him in the minors instead of the majors.

I love you and miss our Silent Witness debates.

Originally Posted by Danzig

wise dan's wins are minor league? oh boy.

Originally Posted by cakes44

Was Goldikova "minor league"?

KIngie isn't on but I can totally answer this for him. NO Goldikova was a great, should have been HOY in fact (I am answering for him or in his stead until he returns)...

Ask him about Makybe Diva or any HK legend (Silent Witness, Vengeance of Rain, Sacred Kingdom, Good Ba Ba, Bullish Luck et al)... to the best of my recollection Black Caviar has a good chance of being in this category as well.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Was Goldikova "minor league"?

I obviously don't mean every single race has been a minor league race. But I ask you, is the Firecracker or Fourstardave really major league?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I obviously don't mean every single race has been a minor league race. But I ask you, is the Firecracker or Fourstardave really major league?

Have you seen the fields in the so-called major league races lately?

The funny thing is that if he were a Euro horse no one would even question him running in the mile again.