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Old 08-21-2012, 07:16 PM
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Do you feel better now???

Just wanted to let you know that Brown is leading Warren in the latest poll in Massachusetts. Have a wonderful evening.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:18 PM
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Do you feel better now???

Just wanted to let you know that Brown is leading Warren in the latest poll in Massachusetts. Have a wonderful evening.
Brown had a meltdown today, and sent a public letter to Reince Prebus about the newly adopted GOP desire to have a "no abortion if you are raped" constitutional amendment.

He'll be lucky to hold on, but at least he is trying desperately to sever himself from his party.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:33 PM
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Brown is being endorsed by democrats and leading with the independents (the majority of Mass voters). People ARE voting on the economy and statements like "you didn't build that on your own" (first spoken by Warren, then echoed by Obama), "we should follow China's example on building our infrastructure", and lamenting student loans when she took down six figure salary as a "minority" professor at Harvard are killing her here. She has even resorted to campaigning in the Northampton, Amherst area (as liberal an area that you will ever find). She can't even rally support from them. Go back to 2010 and the special election between Brown and Coakley and she was always leading in the polls by double digits.
While I have no doubt Obama will win in Mass., I think it will be alot closer than people think. The majority of my family are lifelong democrats and they are voting for Romney. They all say the same thing-he was a good governor and the economy has gotten worse and the spending is out of control.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:39 PM
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Brown is being endorsed by democrats and leading with the independents (the majority of Mass voters). People ARE voting on the economy and statements like "you didn't build that on your own" (first spoken by Warren, then echoed by Obama), "we should follow China's example on building our infrastructure", and lamenting student loans when she took down six figure salary as a "minority" professor at Harvard are killing her here. She has even resorted to campaigning in the Northampton, Amherst area (as liberal an area that you will ever find). She can't even rally support from them. Go back to 2010 and the special election between Brown and Coakley and she was always leading in the polls by double digits.
While I have no doubt Obama will win in Mass., I think it will be alot closer than people think. The majority of my family are lifelong democrats and they are voting for Romney. They all say the same thing-he was a good governor and the economy has gotten worse and the spending is out of control.
As I said, if Brown can distance himself from the BatShiat Crazy Current Republican party, as he's aggressively trying to do, and their obvious desire to return to the 1800's as far as women's rights are concerned, he'll continue to do well.

He's an old-fashioned Republican, not a lunatic John Bircher. Between Brown and Warren, I'd usually vote for Brown. But not now, not until the GOP comes to it's senses again.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:51 PM
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As I said, if Brown can distance himself from the BatShiat Crazy Current Republican party, as he's aggressively trying to do, and their obvious desire to return to the 1800's as far as women's rights are concerned, he'll continue to do well.

He's an old-fashioned Republican, not a lunatic John Bircher. Between Brown and Warren, I'd usually vote for Brown. But not now, not until the GOP comes to it's senses again.
Since Brown took office, he has voted with his party 54% so I don't think he has to try too "aggressively" to distance himself. He's known as an independent thus his popularity in this state.
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"In fact, he's cut federal spending, he's cut the deficit, he's raised GDP."

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...2%20Update.jpg

The past 2 years, the US has added 2.42 times more debt than it has added GDP.
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"In fact, he's cut federal spending, he's cut the deficit, he's raised GDP."

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...2%20Update.jpg

The past 2 years, the US has added 2.42 times more debt than it has added GDP.
Yes, but I'll point out that's a different metric than what I mentioned. The debt has increased, as we are still paying for old things, with interest. We could stop spending today and the debt will continue to rise.

I do believe our GDP to debt ratio right now is not as fearsome as some think, less than Reagans I believe (have to look it up, don't hold me to it)

But Obama's policies and programs have not added massively to the debt. He's cut federal spending a bit. He's cut our deficit a bit. The "big spender" thing just isn't true. He's expanded Medicare to last another 8 years. The GDP has gone up a bit. All with just the initial, very half,hearted stimulus, and about zero further action by Congress or the Fed.
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Obama has personally dismantled the Constitution of the United States with regard to the 4th,5th, and 6th amendments and has spent us into receivership with failed, ignorant, myopic economic policy he continues to cram down our throats.

Oh, and he is arming virtually every govt. agency with hollow point bullets to quell the impending uprising which is virtually unavoidable at this point.
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Riot there is no way you can spin that Obama has cut the deficit and reduced spending. He has outspent, added more to the deficit, and has played more golf than any President in the history of this country.

You are trying to give him credit for raising GDP???? This the worst recovery in 65 years. By the way, historically the worse the recession the stronger the recovery, that is until Obamanomics.
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"In fact, he's cut federal spending, he's cut the deficit, he's raised GDP."

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...2%20Update.jpg

The past 2 years, the US has added 2.42 times more debt than it has added GDP.

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"In fact, he's cut federal spending, he's cut the deficit, he's raised GDP."

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...2%20Update.jpg

The past 2 years, the US has added 2.42 times more debt than it has added GDP.
Math has no place here.
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