Voter ID laws: Everyone has an ID, right? Nope

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by OldDog

....do they still have those?

[bigrun]

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's campaign is asking Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli to launch an investigation into voter-registration forms that are being sent to Virginia residents and addressed to deceased relatives, children, family pets and others ineligible to vote.

I thought only Chicago dead people could vote!..and family pets are like people..

The organization has been mass-mailing the forms — pre-populated with key information such as names and addresses — to primarily Democratic-leaning voting blocs such as young adults, unmarried women, African-Americans and Latinos.

There those repukes go again, trying to shutdown our biggest voting bloc..

In a letter to Cuccinelli's office and the State Board of Elections, Kathryn Bieber, an attorney for the Romney campaign, calls for an investigation into the matter by law-enforcement officials, claiming that the mailings appear to violate "at least one and maybe several Virginia laws aimed at ensuring a fair election."**

Bieber refers to the mailings as "tactics that amount to, or at the very least induce, voter registration fraud,"* and says the issue "presents a very significant risk to the proper administration of the upcoming general election."

**How is that unfair?...Jeb Bush was unfair in 2000. wouldn't allow a recount..
*The other side just doesn't get caught..

"This is the only way for voters and other interested parties to regain confidence in the voter registration and electoral process that has been abused by the Voter Participation Center," the letter says.

Interested parties, is that code for repukes?


http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/n...ms-ar-2081517/

[Riot]

Do they not realize that the dead person or a cat would actually have to go and register to vote , following all the states current voter registration laws, and then actually vote in an election, for it to be voter fraud? That simply sending out mailers is ... spam mailing?

Cats simply can't use those Diebold machines. No opposable thumbs.

[joeydb]

If you want to vote, get a f**king ID. Period.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

Do they not realize that the dead person or a cat would actually have to go and register to vote , following all the states current voter registration laws, and then actually vote in an election, for it to be voter fraud? That simply sending out mailers is ... spam mailing?

Cats simply can't use those Diebold machines. No opposable thumbs.

Don't worry Riot. The same people who give these disadvantaged people a ride to get registered and to the polls on election day can give them a ride to get an I.D. If you don't know enough to get an I.D. you may be a little on the stupid side and shouldn't be voting anyway. That's how people like Obama get elected.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

If you don't know enough to get an I.D. you may be a little on the stupid side and shouldn't be voting anyway..

Historically interesting to see you literally repeat a Jim Crow era anti-black sentiment about voters.

You do realize that we American citizens don't have to possess a certain IQ, or color of skin, or job, or social status, or income level, in order to vote. Right?

"Too stupid to vote" ... so you're against the Constitution? You think you are better than 90-year-old white rural American citizens who don't have birth certificates? Here's a good quote for that opinion you hold: "Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force."...Thomas Jefferson.

BTW: Republicans, who were so proud of ALEC's voter ID law agenda because, as they've publicly said, they think it will disenfranchise Democratic voters and allow them to win ... have just realized that these GOP voter ID laws, if allowed by the courts, will disenfranchise about an equal - but highly significant - number of elderly white voters in swing states of Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, that usually vote Republican.

Oops.

Expect to see diminished pushback and defense by Republicans in these states as their restrictive voter ID laws are brought to court. As the disenfranchisement numbers come out, the GOP has realized that they may have screwed themselves.

[Clip-Clop]

I would be for a basic civics test for the privilege of voting. it is because of uninformed voters that the informed voters are so upset by the current government.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I would be for a basic civics test for the privilege of voting. it is because of uninformed voters that the informed voters are so upset by the current government.

Are you serious? That exact type of test was given in this country, and outlawed in the 1960's as illegal. You'd clearly fail such a test yourself, as you are unawares of our United States civil rights history

We already have a basic civics test for voting. It's called, "Being an American Citizen". Even grossly uninformed voters, unawares of our voting laws and civil rights laws, such as yourself, can vote.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I would be for a basic civics test for the privilege of voting. it is because of uninformed voters that the informed voters are so upset by the current government.

i don't know about that now....there are plenty of both to go around. and what's 'informed' mean? for instance, if someone was clinging to the opinion that obama is muslim, would that mean he was or wasn't informed?
and what kind of civics test? they have to name the current administration? 6 of the 9 court justices? or name former presidents-most people would fail that, but that doesn't mean they aren't informed.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

Historically interesting to see you literally repeat a Jim Crow era anti-black sentiment about voters.

You do realize that we American citizens don't have to possess a certain IQ, or color of skin, or job, or social status, or income level, in order to vote. Right?

"Too stupid to vote" ... so you're against the Constitution? You think you are better than 90-year-old white rural American citizens who don't have birth certificates? Here's a good quote for that opinion you hold: "Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force."...Thomas Jefferson.

BTW: Republicans, who were so proud of ALEC's voter ID law agenda because, as they've publicly said, they think it will disenfranchise Democratic voters and allow them to win ... have just realized that these GOP voter ID laws, if allowed by the courts, will disenfranchise about an equal - but highly significant - number of elderly white voters in swing states of Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, that usually vote Republican.

Oops.

Expect to see diminished pushback and defense by Republicans in these states as their restrictive voter ID laws are brought to court. As the disenfranchisement numbers come out, the GOP has realized that they may have screwed themselves.

Play the Race Card Riot. If you can't prove you are a Citizen, you shouldn't be voting. People have all year to get an I.D. Call ACORN and ask for some assistance. You will get all the help you need. I didn't say stupid people should be STOPPED from voting, just that maybe they shouldn't. By the way Riot do you know the history of the Democratic Party? Who it was that was actually trying to keep Blacks from voting? Who started the KKK and why? Who wanted to deny Blacks their 2nd amendment rights? You guessed it! The Democrats! Read up on the Reconstruction some time. I can't understand why any hardworking Blacks would even think about registering Democrat. You go on about the Constitution yet cry out for more gun control. The Federal Govt. has been assuming undelagated powers and ignoring the Constitution for a long time. How do those elderly white people cash their SS checks anyway? J. H. Christ I have to wait in line 20 minutes at the Pharmacy then show I.D. to buy Claritin-D just so I can frikkin breath, when I used to grab a box off the shelf and head for the cash register. You make it sound like getting an I.D. is near impossible and anyone who thinks people should prove they are a Citizen to vote is a Racist.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Play the Race Card Riot. If you can't prove you are a Citizen, you shouldn't be voting. People have all year to get an I.D. Call ACORN and ask for some assistance. You will get all the help you need. I didn't say stupid people should be STOPPED from voting, just that maybe they shouldn't. By the way Riot do you know the history of the Democratic Party? Who it was that was actually trying to keep Blacks from voting? Who started the KKK and why? Who wanted to deny Blacks their 2nd amendment rights? You guessed it! The Democrats! Read up on the Reconstruction some time. I can't understand why any hardworking Blacks would even think about registering Democrat. You go on about the Constitution yet cry out for more gun control. The Federal Govt. has been assuming undelagated powers and ignoring the Constitution for a long time. How do those elderly white people cash their SS checks anyway? J. H. Christ I have to wait in line 20 minutes at the Pharmacy then show I.D. to buy Claritin-D just so I can frikkin breath, when I used to grab a box off the shelf and head for the cash register. You make it sound like getting an I.D. is near impossible and anyone who thinks people should prove they are a Citizen to vote is a Racist.

The Voter ID laws are far more than just racist, as the courts are agreeing, they are poll taxes and unfair Constitutional infringements on the right to vote of not only specifically and discriminatarily non-white minorities, but the poor, elderly, and those that don't live a specific life style or have a certain income.

What does your state say currently (current law) about what you have to show to register to vote? Tell us.

After you read up on reconstruction, keep reading through the 20th century. It's fun to demonize the current Democratic party based upon the political parties of the 1800's, especially as you all apparently read the same right-wing websites that come out with your talking points on the same day - but there's far more to that story than the superficial, shallow talking point you've been told to repeat.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Play the Race Card Riot. If you can't prove you are a Citizen, you shouldn't be voting. People have all year to get an I.D. Call ACORN and ask for some assistance. You will get all the help you need. I didn't say stupid people should be STOPPED from voting, just that maybe they shouldn't. By the way Riot do you know the history of the Democratic Party? Who it was that was actually trying to keep Blacks from voting? Who started the KKK and why? Who wanted to deny Blacks their 2nd amendment rights? You guessed it! The Democrats! Read up on the Reconstruction some time. I can't understand why any hardworking Blacks would even think about registering Democrat. You go on about the Constitution yet cry out for more gun control. The Federal Govt. has been assuming undelagated powers and ignoring the Constitution for a long time. How do those elderly white people cash their SS checks anyway? J. H. Christ I have to wait in line 20 minutes at the Pharmacy then show I.D. to buy Claritin-D just so I can frikkin breath, when I used to grab a box off the shelf and head for the cash register. You make it sound like getting an I.D. is near impossible and anyone who thinks people should prove they are a Citizen to vote is a Racist.

yeah, the constitution is all fine and dandy, til things like ndaa come along. or shooting citizens overseas without due process. the ag even tried to justfiy the latter.
the bible, and the constitution. both used by anyone in any argument to justify their point.