So let's vote on same sex marriage

[Riot]

LOL ... Fox News trying to desperately spin Obama's support for gay marriage, this way:

"Obama Flip Flops, declares War on Marriage".

Seriously?

"War on Marriage"?

Oh, Fox News, so fair and balanced ...

And the comments section? Flipping out.

[AlreadyHome]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL ... Fox News trying to desperately spin Obama's support for gay marriage, this way:

"Obama Flip Flops, declares War on Marriage".

Seriously?

"War on Marriage"?

Oh, Fox News, so fair and balanced ...

And the comments section? Flipping out.

Obama says

[dellinger63]

Personally I'm for number 2.

However I would never want my personal view to affect a view a State I don't live in may have.

10th Amendment > Gay Marriage

BTW How do I block RIOT's polls in addition to her posts?

[Clip-Clop]

Marriage has always had a religious tone to me. I would prefer a hetero civil union option given the choice. Not such a hassle to get out of, why can't straight couples have the same opportunities as gays!!???

[bigrun]

Stewart's take on gay Obama and NC..


http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-epi...2-john-r--hall

[jms62]

Where is the option for?

Let's address this issue when we have Less than 4% unemployment, no active wars and a defecit cut in half.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by jms62

Where is the option for?

Let's address this issue when we have Less than 4% unemployment, no active wars and a defecit cut in half.

That would be never of course, which is your point...If you put that restriction on all threads, there would be no threads here...

[jms62]

Originally Posted by bigrun

That would be never of course, which is your point...If you put that restriction on all threads, there would be no threads here...

My snide comment was not directed at the thread it was directed at our government.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Where is the option for?

Let's address this issue when we have Less than 4% unemployment, no active wars and a defecit cut in half.

many of us can multi-task. altho some items on the agenda may have more importance to the general population than others, they are still important. they still matter.

equal rights for all in this country is one of it's most basic tenets, and what the country was created for to begin with. when people don't have rights that are conferred on others, that's a huge problem, and should never happen here.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

many of us can multi-task. altho some items on the agenda may have more importance to the general population than others, they are still important. they still matter.

equal rights for all in this country is one of it's most basic tenets, and what the country was created for to begin with. when people don't have rights that are conferred on others, that's a huge problem, and should never happen here.

I have a question for you. It's not a trick question. There is no right or wrong answer. You say that if gay marriage is illegal, that is a civil rights issue and gay people are not being allowed the same rights as others.

I think that being gay is genetic in most cases. I don't know what percentage of the time. I'm sure there is a very small percent of the population that are gay simply by choice. But I would guess that in 95% of cases, it is genetic.

Here is my question for you. Let's just pretend that being gay was a choice and was not genetic. Then would you still have the same opinion? In other words, if there was no such thing as gay people, but some people simply had an attraction to both sexes, would it be unconstitutional (in your opinion) if marriage was only legal between a man and a woman?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Stewart's take on gay Obama and NC..


http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-epi...2-john-r--hall

LOL - that was brilliant! And on the stupid NC ballot measure: "Now heterosexual couples in North Carolina will suffer the same lack of rights that gays have always experienced".

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - that was brilliant! And on the stupid NC ballot measure: "Now heterosexual couples in North Carolina will suffer the same lack of rights that gays have always experienced".

And Kenya is saying Obama was born in Ghana...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Personally I'm for number 2.

However I would never want my personal view to affect a view a State I don't live in may have.

10th Amendment > Gay Marriage

BTW How do I block RIOT's polls in addition to her posts?

You don't click on them, then comment in the thread, then leave with an ad hominem to try and cover your rude ass, because you decided to click into the thread and participate.

Life: way too hard for Dell to figure out

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Personally I'm for number 2.

However I would never want my personal view to affect a view a State I don't live in may have.

10th Amendment > Gay Marriage

BTW How do I block RIOT's polls in addition to her posts?

so what you are saying is that if the majority of a state wants to make a law banning interracial marriage, that is okay because of the 10th amendment?

what happened to the part of the constitution which seperates church and state?

what happened to Majority rule cannot oppress minority rights?


these laws that have been passed by states are unconstitutional. they go against the definition of america.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

so what you are saying is that if the majority of a state wants to make a law banning interracial marriage, that is okay because of the 10th amendment?

what happened to the part of the constitution which seperates church and state?

what happened to Majority rule cannot oppress minority rights?


these laws that have been passed by states are unconstitutional. they go against the definition of america.

[OldDog]

Question (and I'm not being snide)

If the laws being passed by states are unconstitutional, why is Obama affirming the issue as a states' rights issue? Given that he has come out in favor of gay marriage, why doesn't he (his DOJ) challenge them?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Question (and I'm not being snide)

If the laws being passed by states are unconstitutional, why is Obama affirming the issue as a states' rights issue? Given that he has come out in favor of gay marriage, why doesn't he (his DOJ) challenge them?

it will happen where it is supposed to happen. The Supreme Court.

Obama doesnt have absolute power. Though he has advised the DOJ to NOT defend DOMA (which takes away marriage rights and benefits to gay couples). Apparently house republicans just passed some bill that requires the DOJ to defend DOMA.

[Antitrust32]

I cannot support modern day republicans. They want to spend like democrats but say they dont, and also are complete ass holes while they are at it. I'm too fiscally conservative to support democrats.

This is how I feel about politics:

Hello? Hello? Hello?

Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone at home?
Come on now
I hear you're feeling down.
Well I can ease your pain
Get you on your feet again.
Relax.
I'll need some information first.
Just the basic facts.
Can you show me where it hurts?

There is no pain you are receding
A distant ship smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying.

He wasn't saying sh.it. Nothing will change. He was pandering to the idiots who support gay marriage that don't have the capacity to decipher bulls.hit.

And there are plenty of them.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

He wasn't saying sh.it. Nothing will change. He was pandering to the idiots who support gay marriage that don't have the capacity to decipher bulls.hit.

And there are plenty of them.