5/5 (CD): 138th Kentucky Derby (G1), 5 Undercard Stakes

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

That was Daddy Long Legs. Take Charge Inypdy had some issues in the stretch, and I wouldn't doubt it if he came back injured.

Daddy Long Legs and Trinniberg are a joint entry for the stupidest placement of very good horses in Derby history.

An obvious high class sprinter and obvious high class turf horse who both were certain be beaten 30 or more lengths going in.

Poor Bodemeister on the rail. Mike Smith wtf?

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Poor Bodemeister on the rail. Mike Smith wtf?

I agree, when he broke on top he should have wrangled the horse back to midpack and sat off the speed from the inside, where do these guys learn to ride. They really should be listening to us!

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Daddy Long Legs and Trinniberg are a joint entry for the stupidest placement of very good horses in Derby history.

An obvious high class sprinter and obvious high class turf horse who both were certain be beaten 30 or more lengths going in.

Its one race, and while Trinn definitely played a role in the outcome I dont see the point in not running, they can run in another race next month.........or next August if trained by Pletcher/Frankel.

[slotdirt]

At least Trinniberg was caught by the finish line camera. Daddy Long Legs never even made it that far.

[King Glorious]

Did anyone happen to catch Lava Man's act? I didn't see it but I heard he was acting up and needed a pony himself. It's kinda funny when you think about it. One of the main reasons people discounted I'll Have Another's chances were because of O'Neill's record outside of California, with Lava Man being the poster child when it comes to argument. Funny that on a day that Lava Man proves again that he doesn't ship well, O'Neill wins the big one.

The only problem I have with the ride is the rail was still a little dead. If Bode is in the same path Shackleford was in then he holds on.

If Patrick Valenzuela had not "retired" from racing late 2011, what were the chances of he getting the mount on I'll have Another. Since J Paul Reddam is the President of Cash Call and P. Val is the walking,talking bilboard for them. 3 crooks in the winner circle

Originally Posted by helicopter11

If Patrick Valenzuela had not "retired" from racing late 2011, what were the chances of he getting the mount on I'll have Another. Since J Paul Reddam is the President of Cash Call and P. Val is the walking,talking bilboard for them. 3 crooks in the winner circle

Yeah it's outstanding a loan shark won the derby. Fortunately that fat hack for the times won't report that.

[tector]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yeah it's outstanding a loan shark won the derby. Fortunately that fat hack for the times won't report that.

Aside from the jockey angle, the rest of the connections are puke-inducing. Drug O'Neill and his slimy, toad-like owner. Actually I wish somebody "mainstream" would focus on it, since sleazes like these get excused away among "horse people". Hell, they are upper-crust.

[slotdirt]

Four times O'Neill has had horses test positive for milkshaking. Four! Like I said yesterday, it will be fun reading the NYT's next expose on racing; the Derby may have done their writing for them.

[South Beach Luv]

HRTV's Jon White had the winner pegged, if he is on the air today over/under on how many times he mentions it?

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Four times O'Neill has had horses test positive for milkshaking. Four! Like I said yesterday, it will be fun reading the NYT's next expose on racing; the Derby may have done their writing for them.

Sounds like he fits right in to me.