Kentucky's ongoing attempt to end racing in state proceeds..

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Honu

You dont know it. You dont know what pro athletes take or dont take that is legal before they compete. Gambling on horses is no different than gambling on football or basketball at a sports book, and believe me you really think the coaches disclose what players had an injection prior to game time or who had a cortizone shot 5 days ago. Dude you really just dont know.

And how exactly would you know what I know?

Even if I didn't, just for fun, I also know that 99% don't get drugs or injections before competing, even in football.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

And how exactly would you know what I know?

Even if I didn't, just for fun, I also know that 99% don't get drugs or injections before competing, even in football.

Oh really? Then tell me what the sportscasters were talking about when they said Big Ben had an injection before the game and now that the lights keep going out we wonder how his ankle is going to be feeling with the delay of game? How about Grant Hills torn minicus, that is a pretty painful injury but yet he played in a game a week later. Whatever... you choose to believe what you want and I choose to believe what is written and talked about in pro sports. They get hopped and blocked and people bet on the games that is a fact.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Honu

Oh really? Then tell me what the sportscasters were talking about when they said Big Ben had an injection before the game and now that the lights keep going out we wonder how his ankle is going to be feeling with the delay of game? How about Grant Hills torn minicus, that is a pretty painful injury but yet he played in a game a week later. Whatever... you choose to believe what you want and I choose to believe what is written and talked about in pro sports. They get hopped and blocked and people bet on the games that is a fact.

Wow, do you read, or just rant first? I NEVER said no athletes use drugs to compete, EVER. I said 99% don't like they do in US racing.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Wow, do you read, or just rant first? I NEVER said no athletes use drugs to compete, EVER. I said 99% don't like they do in US racing.

Im not ranting, Im just pointing out the obvious.....Those are just the one's off the top of my head. If you think pro athletes dont down 800mlg of Advil and use over the counter blocks and injections before competeting and I would say the number is close to about 80 % of them DO....you havent played sports. It hurts to compete at a pro level even if you dont suffer a major injury during a game you are damn sure going to be sore the next day and if its a game day Im sure they are taking more than Advil.
I think racing can do away with all medications 72 hours out and there wont be a large impact, but to do away with a drug that by all scientific study is proven to be preventitive in helping horses not cause damage to their lungs is just beyond simply stupid.
Ever notice the number of horses that come here to run in the breeders cup from across the pond that use Lasix? Ever ask yourself why they use it ? they use it because they know it prevents bleeding. Over there they work on it but they know it has to be out of the horses system for the race. Just like Dubai, you can work on Lasix up until about 10 days from racing, then you have to go old school by withdrawing grain, hay and water. So which is more humane?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Honu

Im not ranting, Im just pointing out the obvious.....Those are just the one's off the top of my head. If you think pro athletes dont down 800mlg of Advil and use over the counter blocks and injections before competeting and I would say the number is close to about 80 % of them DO....you havent played sports. It hurts to compete at a pro level even if you dont suffer a major injury during a game you are damn sure going to be sore the next day and if its a game day Im sure they are taking more than Advil.
I think racing can do away with all medications 72 hours out and there wont be a large impact, but to do away with a drug that by all scientific study is proven to be preventitive in helping horses not cause damage to their lungs is just beyond simply stupid.
Ever notice the number of horses that come here to run in the breeders cup from across the pond that use Lasix? Ever ask yourself why they use it ? they use it because they know it prevents bleeding. Over there they work on it but they know it has to be out of the horses system for the race. Just like Dubai, you can work on Lasix up until about 10 days from racing, then you have to go old school by withdrawing grain, hay and water. So which is more humane?

80%, I doubt that number. Even if true, it isn't 99%, and if someone isn't sore and takes it I don't think it makes them play better.

I've said many times why I think Lasix is given to horses shipping over...competitive edge. The ones that don't use it are fools, and it has nothing to do with health, but speed.

[Indian Charlie]

Hey Orioles.

Maybe this will help illuminate the futility of what you are trying to do.

Zenyatta fan : "Yay, Zenyatta is the greatest horse ever!! I love her forever, and her dance is so cute!"

A rational person : "She's a nice mare, but the greatest horse ever? That's absurd"

Three thousand irate Zenyatta fans : "Zenyatta is the bestest horse ever! Why are you such a hater? How can you say she is the worst horse of the last 50 years?. I hope you burn in hell!"

Rational Person : "I never said she sucked! I said she's a really nice mare. How did you get that I think she sucks?"

Zenyatta fan : "She does not suck! Rachel Alexandra sucks!"

Rational Person : "Ugh. Pardon me while I go slam my dick in a sliding glass door".

This is the type of mentality you are up against Orioles.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Hey Orioles.

Maybe this will help illuminate the futility of what you are trying to do.

Zenyatta fan : "Yay, Zenyatta is the greatest horse ever!! I love her forever, and her dance is so cute!"

A rational person : "She's a nice mare, but the greatest horse ever? That's absurd"

Three thousand irate Zenyatta fans : "Zenyatta is the bestest horse ever! Why are you such a hater? How can you say she is the worst horse of the last 50 years?. I hope you burn in hell!"

Rational Person : "I never said she sucked! I said she's a really nice mare. How did you get that I think she sucks?"

Zenyatta fan : "She does not suck! Rachel Alexandra sucks!"

Rational Person : "Ugh. Pardon me while I go slam my dick in a sliding glass door".

This is the type of mentality you are up against Orioles.

That about nailed it down. What can I say, a little Don Quixote in me I guess.