Oaks and Derby Handicapping

[HaloWishingwell]

I know post position will have an impact on this but this is how I see the early order of the race;
Trinniberg
Hansen
Bodemeister
Gemologist
Take Charge Indy
Alpha
Mark Valeski
I'll Have Another
El Padrino
Union Rags
Creative Cause
Prospective
Dullahan
Daddy Nose Best
Daddy Long Legs
Rousing Sermon
Liaison
Sabercat
Went The Day Well
Done Talking

[MaTH716]

You posted this in the other thread.

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

Using....All
Tossing....none

Post positions,reports, weather and etc. Just too much to come before dumping anyone.

For example a horse on the bubble like El Padrino and Take Charge Indy would go way up my list if it rains.

Now, you are trying to figure out the early pace scenarios?

I agree with your original post, for the most part let's figure out which 20 will be in the gate and where. Plus we'll have some sort of idea on what the weather will be and how the track is playing the first few days of the meet.

[HaloWishingwell]

I stand to my first post since it could make a difference to the final outcome of the race. I think not much at this point will change how the race unveils early on. Getting post one won't suddenly bless Done Talking with speed to the front.

[tywizard]

Steve has mentioned this before somewhere...And I couldn't agree more.

I can't make heads or tails of The Oaks. Every logical contender appears to have the exact same front running style. I suppose Grace Hall has shown some ability to sit and wait and maybe Summer Applause. Any thoughts on how this race will develop?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by tywizard

Steve has mentioned this before somewhere...And I couldn't agree more.

I can't make heads or tails of The Oaks. Every logical contender appears to have the exact same front running style. I suppose Grace Hall has shown some ability to sit and wait and maybe Summer Applause. Any thoughts on how this race will develop?

Summer Applause will get the set-up that she didn't get last out, but nearly won anyway.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Summer Applause will get the set-up that she didn't get last out, but nearly won anyway.

What do you mean?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

What do you mean?

Meaning I like Summer Applause better for the Oaks than I do Believe You Can.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Summer Applause will get the set-up that she didn't get last out, but nearly won anyway.

Summer Applause got a HUGE setup last time and somehow still lost.