Gulf seafood deformities alarm scientists

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

this thread is about whatever we make of it!

Sigh ...

Then I'm sticking with penises on chins

[Antitrust32]

In April 2009, the Obama administration granted BP, a big supporter of Obama, a waiver of environmental regulations. But after the oil spill, it blocked Louisiana from protecting its coastline against the oil spill by delaying rather than expediting regulatory approval of essential protective measures. It has also chosen not to use what has been described as “the most effective method” of fighting the spill, a method successfully used in other oil spills. Democratic strategist James Carville called Obama’s handling of the oil spill “lackadaisical” and “unbelievable” in its “stupidity.”



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[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Sigh ...

Then I'm sticking with penises on chins

i'm impressed you managed to avoid any response about the proof I offered of Obama's extremely terrible managment of the oil spill!

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i'm impressed you managed to avoid any response about the proof I offered of Obama's extremely terrible managment of the oil spill!

I agree the spill could have been managed better on the oil companies end, and perhaps the goverment could have done more, but Obama wasn't personally responsible for turning the valve and cutting off the flow, was he? I would hardly call the government's response "terrible".

Should he have accepted oil skimmer offers to help mitigate the damage? Sure.

My point was that to say the government, especially Obama, ignored the spill and didn't appear to give a darn for 53 days, is unfairly and completely false - the government was on the scene at day one.

Words have meaning, and those words do not talk about the quality of the response by BP/Halliburton/TransOcean, nor their inability to cut off their well, nor the governments participation, they say there was no government response. That's ridiculous and not true, even if taken as the superficial ODS snark it was intended to be.

In retrospect it's easy to say "something more should have been done". As the oil companies have the physical workers and equipment, what could that have been? Scream louder and more frequently at them for not being able to cut the spill off? For taking shortcuts and causing the spill in the first place?

That's already been litigated to death. And when Deepwater Horizon is mentioned, the very first thing - or second or fifth thing - that comes to mind about the response and the entire incident is not, "Obama sucks".

The question for me is what should be done now, that we are seeing evidence that the dispersant used by the oil companies (the one they refused to identify) has harmed Gulf wildlife.

[Antitrust32]

I dont know what should be done now. I was very worried about the chemicals they were dumping in the gulf back when it was going on. I didnt think oil sinking to the bottom of the ocean was a very good thing.

You're the scientist.. what are your thoughts? (sorry couldnt resist)



All I know is what I can do... and that is eat seafood that comes from East of where I live, not West!

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont know what should be done now.

You're the scientist.. what are your thoughts? (sorry couldnt resist)



All I know is what I can do... and that is eat seafood that comes from East of where I live, not West!

I agree, don't eat gulf seafood

They can save most of the species. The worry is the corals, oyster beds, etc, and wondering how long this will last, if it will be permanent, etc.

Then I say the government has to stop giving waivers for drilling (procedural requirements, equipment backup requirements, etc), and has to be tough on private industry standards of conduct - a stance completely and vocally opposed by virtually every politician in Washington, and the biggest lobby in Washington.

Drill, baby, drill. Frack, baby, frack. And don't let the government tell you how to do it or interfer.

Americans need to make the clear choice of what they want in America: no government control or government control that would have helped prevent this disaster - and future disasters - and order the politicians in Washington to do it.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Please forgive me for discussing politics in the "politics" room

Yes you are correct - all of us Obama Derangement types expected him to deep dive on the rig and fix it himself on day one. We were sorely disappointed.

How about not showing up for 9 days? How about James Carville, one of the strongest Democratic pundit's, Calling him out on live television - screaming in desperation from the banks of the Mississippi on CNN "Where is the President???!!!"

Well, the president played golf while the entire gulf coast was in a panic.

The president delayed his trip a second time, to attend a fund raising dinner in San Francisco - which clearly was more important than displaying the leadership that the people of the Gulf Coast desperately needed in their time of crisis by their commander in chief. Clearly more important at least, to him.

[Frost King]

you guys have all been sucked in! Who's interest is Al-Jezera representing? Of course, they are representing the interests of ARAB OIL. It is in there best interest to continue to add wood to the fire.

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Please forgive me for discussing politics in the "politics" room

Yes you are correct - all of us Obama Derangement types expected him to deep dive on the rig and fix it himself on day one. We were sorely disappointed.

How about not showing up for 9 days? How about James Carville, one of the strongest Democratic pundit's, Calling him out on live television - screaming in desperation from the banks of the Mississippi on CNN "Where is the President???!!!"

What could he have done down there himself? He specifically said he didn't want to physically go right away because he didn't want the presence of a big poobah president to "grind everything to a halt" while the secret service restricted access, checked for bombs, etc. while everyone else was frantically working. You know that's exactly what would have happened.

And why should he physically go there? It's not like seeing New Orleans after Katrina. He can stand on shore - this is well before oil hit the shores - he went there to look at that - and look out to the gulf and know there's a disaster out there. What would be the point of that?

He sent the appropriate departments on day one. He was getting reports constantly.

Well, the president played golf while the entire gulf coast was in a panic.

Dude - he did NOT ignore this disaster. C'mon. Be fair.