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Old 04-18-2012, 09:39 AM
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Ya its the same every year

Hansen will take money since he won the Juvy,he is white and they will do 5 stories on Dr.Crazy. TCI will take the Borel money,Mark Valeski will take the Rosie cash ,Bodemeister cause of Bob and his son plus heart attack and then there is the Went The Day Well who will take cash cause of the AK angle.

Only 1 question? Who will be this year's Wise Guy Horse???
Daddy Nose Best?
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:52 AM
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Daddy Nose Best?
Agreed, unfortunately. I like him a lot.
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:40 AM
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Agreed, unfortunately. I like him a lot.
His Sunland Derby will get discounted because of the insane speed duel but it was a fast race on figures and he finished-up strong. The big negative at this point is how the runner-up didn't exactly flatter in the Arkansas Derby.
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:49 AM
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His Sunland Derby will get discounted because it's the Sunland Derby.
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:35 PM
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His Sunland Derby will get discounted because of the insane speed duel but it was a fast race on figures and he finished-up strong. The big negative at this point is how the runner-up didn't exactly flatter in the Arkansas Derby.
Agreed. I had high hopes for Isn't he Clever last weekend, because I thought he ran a monster race at Sunland. If he somehow makes the Derby i'll stick with him on deep exotic tickets.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:24 PM
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#21 Isn't He Clever

However if

Stirred Up Wins the Jerome he is #21

Castaway Wins the Lexington,El Padrino is #21/2nd means he is #21

Morgan's Guerilla Wins the Lexington he is #21

News Pending Wins the Lexington he is #21

Also Hansen and Bodemeister just moved down on alot of lists
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:26 PM
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#21 Isn't He Clever

However if

Stirred Up Wins the Jerome he is #21

Castaway Wins the Lexington,El Padrino is #21/2nd means he is #21

Morgan's Guerilla Wins the Lexington he is #21

News Pending Wins the Lexington he is #21

Also Hansen and Bodemeister just moved down on alot of lists
What if Stirred Up and Castaway both win?
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:32 PM
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What if Stirred Up and Castaway both win?
The universe will temporarily stop and Baffert in a horse suit will get into the field.
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:18 PM
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The universe will temporarily stop and Baffert in a horse suit will get into the field.
Even though I dislike Castaway, its not like that would be a shock if they both won. THey are 2-1 and 3-1 on the morning lines.
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Old 04-18-2012, 12:47 PM
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Daddy Nose Best?
Ya same here,which sucks cause was hoping he would be the BOMB(25/1 or so) on the exotics
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:40 PM
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Ya same here,which sucks cause was hoping he would be the BOMB(25/1 or so) on the exotics
I feel like the trend in recent years has been for the odds climbing on the favorites, and dropping on everyone else. That's why I'm seeing a post time favorite in the 7-1 range, with horses like Daddy Nose Best, El Padrino, and Mark Valeski landing in the 20-1 to 25-1 range. Although I have a bad feeling we'll see something in the teens for Daddy Nose Best.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:10 PM
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No clue how reliable this source is but looks like Rousing Sermon is IN

http://voices.idahostatesman.com/201...kentucky_derby
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:36 PM
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Although I have a bad feeling we'll see something in the teens for Daddy Nose Best.
The teens in this year's Derby could possibly be the 10th pick though.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:10 PM
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I feel like the trend in recent years has been for the odds climbing on the favorites, and dropping on everyone else. That's why I'm seeing a post time favorite in the 7-1 range, with horses like Daddy Nose Best, El Padrino, and Mark Valeski landing in the 20-1 to 25-1 range. Although I have a bad feeling we'll see something in the teens for Daddy Nose Best.
Can't really see the post time favorite being as high as 7-1 in a year in which there has really been only one blow out win. I don't think the first time or occasional bettors and probably a good segment of seasoned handicappers will be able to get past the 9 and half length win and the 108 beyer.
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