English Channel Vs. Cacique

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

EC rank and LR rank also??? What the hell is going on ?? Has Angel finally lost his touch??

EC has been rank early on in many of his races. I knew when he drew the 10 post he was gonna be screwed...he likes to be near the pace and have a target...but 3-4 wide for 3 turns if awfully tough to overcome.

[Danzig]

channel looked pretty good all things considered.

so who gets top turf horse this year?

[tanner12oz]

cacique was the biggest dissappointment of the day for me.....this horse always seems to be game and in the mix. just didnt fire today. unless there was something wrong he showed nothing.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by tanner12oz

cacique was the biggest dissappointment of the day for me.....this horse always seems to be game and in the mix. just didnt fire today. unless there was something wrong he showed nothing.

He didn't figure to stretch out to 12f with top horses. There is plenty of evidence from his sibings and half-siblings - Dansili, Banks Hill, Heat Haze, Intercontinental - that this bloodline prefers 8-10f. Cacique was already overachieving to win at 11f. When matched with top horses who genuninely stay 12f he was found out.

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

He didn't figure to stretch out to 12f with top horses. There is plenty of evidence from his sibings and half-siblings - Dansili, Banks Hill, Heat Haze, Intercontinental - that this bloodline prefers 8-10f. Cacique was already overachieving to win at 11f. When matched with top horses who genuninely stay 12f he was found out.

spot on, only way he gets near the leaders if they crawled early on.. After seeing the first few fractions, I knew Frankie was in the perfect position!

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

its the brock guy.......check out the pics on the other thread..

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

channel looked pretty good all things considered.

so who gets top turf horse this year?

Miesque's Approval gets my vote.

[Danzig]

it's possible he could get it, or aragorn. either one of them or english channel. wonder who gets it for turf mare...a few years back high chaparral got it based on one showing in north america, the bc...will they give it to ouija board?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

it's possible he could get it, or aragorn. either one of them or english channel. wonder who gets it for turf mare...a few years back high chaparral got it based on one showing in north america, the bc...will they give it to ouija board?

If you give it to the BEST turf horse to run in North America then OB probably fits the bill. Not so sure that we should be giving championships to horses with 1 start but I guess the voting rules are vague if they even have any rules.

Originally Posted by Danzig188

it's possible he could get it, or aragorn. either one of them or english channel. wonder who gets it for turf mare...a few years back high chaparral got it based on one showing in north america, the bc...will they give it to ouija board?

What about the Tin man if he wins his next start? hes undefeated and has beaten EC soundly in their only matchup. Great sentimental story as well that voters often like.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by oracle80

What about the Tin man if he wins his next start? hes undefeated and has beaten EC soundly in their only matchup. Great sentimental story as well that voters often like.

That is my vote if he can win his next start. Normally I'd vote against a horse that skipped the BC but considering there is nothing between 8 and 12 furlongs on the turf there was really nowhere to run him so I can't fault them for skipping it.

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by oracle80

What about the Tin man if he wins his next start? hes undefeated and has beaten EC soundly in their only matchup. Great sentimental story as well that voters often like.

I forgot about the Tin Man, and I love that old horse. It's really hard though to not like Miesque's Approval, he won at different distances, in top company and showed up to take on everyone on the Championship Day, and what a story! I would still give him the nod over Tin Man.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

I forgot about the Tin Man, and I love that old horse. It's really hard though to not like Miesque's Approval, he won at different distances, in top company and showed up to take on everyone on the Championship Day, and what a story! I would still give him the nod over Tin Man.

I am still upset that I tossed Miesque's Approval.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by oracle80

What about the Tin man if he wins his next start? hes undefeated and has beaten EC soundly in their only matchup. Great sentimental story as well that voters often like.

Its funny you say that , Dick said something about the same thing the other day, he said if it does happen when he gets up to accept he is going to say "blah blah and Mr. Todd has given me all of the breeding rights " . LOL

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Honu

Its funny you say that , Dick said something about the same thing the other day, he said if it does happen when he gets up to accept he is going to say "blah blah and Mr. Todd has given me all of the breeding rights " . LOL

that's hysterical...I hope he wins so we get to hear that speech ...AND I hope he gives you at LEAST a couple of shares

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by oracle80

What about the Tin man if he wins his next start? hes undefeated and has beaten EC soundly in their only matchup. Great sentimental story as well that voters often like.

intriguing suggestion...and his cause is helped by a relative unknown from europe winning the race.

The Channel all day