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randallscott35 11-04-2006 05:07 PM

English Channel Vs. Cacique
 
Congrats to Kev on his win. Great job as he was wide the whole way and ran on. Kudos.

1st_Saturday_in_May 11-04-2006 05:08 PM

Yeah it was a great effort by EC. I thought he was in big trouble when he was fighting Johnny V donw the frontstretch. Cacique dropped like a rock...

paisjpq 11-04-2006 05:09 PM

yes congrats Kev...check is in the mail.:)

Cannon Shell 11-04-2006 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st_Saturday_in_May
he was fighting Johnny V donw the frontstretch.

EC rank and LR rank also??? What the hell is going on ?? Has Angel finally lost his touch??

GPK 11-04-2006 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Congrats to Kev on his win. Great job as he was wide the whole way and ran on. Kudos.


Thanks Rand and Beth...would not have posted my thread had I seen this earlier.:o

Cajungator26 11-04-2006 09:56 PM

I was ultra impressed with EC... rank as can be, but still managed to run on. :D

I knew Lawyer Ron was done when I saw him come out of the gate... the draw reins might help while training, but he doesn't have em on while he's racing.

GPK 11-04-2006 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
EC rank and LR rank also??? What the hell is going on ?? Has Angel finally lost his touch??


EC has been rank early on in many of his races. I knew when he drew the 10 post he was gonna be screwed...he likes to be near the pace and have a target...but 3-4 wide for 3 turns if awfully tough to overcome.

Danzig 11-05-2006 12:29 AM

channel looked pretty good all things considered.

so who gets top turf horse this year?

tanner12oz 11-05-2006 12:33 AM

cacique was the biggest dissappointment of the day for me.....this horse always seems to be game and in the mix. just didnt fire today. unless there was something wrong he showed nothing.

LARHAGE 11-05-2006 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
channel looked pretty good all things considered.

so who gets top turf horse this year?

Miesque's Approval gets my vote.

Danzig 11-05-2006 07:06 AM

it's possible he could get it, or aragorn. either one of them or english channel. wonder who gets it for turf mare...a few years back high chaparral got it based on one showing in north america, the bc...will they give it to ouija board?

Cannon Shell 11-05-2006 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
it's possible he could get it, or aragorn. either one of them or english channel. wonder who gets it for turf mare...a few years back high chaparral got it based on one showing in north america, the bc...will they give it to ouija board?

If you give it to the BEST turf horse to run in North America then OB probably fits the bill. Not so sure that we should be giving championships to horses with 1 start but I guess the voting rules are vague if they even have any rules.

Pedigree Ann 11-05-2006 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tanner12oz
cacique was the biggest dissappointment of the day for me.....this horse always seems to be game and in the mix. just didnt fire today. unless there was something wrong he showed nothing.

He didn't figure to stretch out to 12f with top horses. There is plenty of evidence from his sibings and half-siblings - Dansili, Banks Hill, Heat Haze, Intercontinental - that this bloodline prefers 8-10f. Cacique was already overachieving to win at 11f. When matched with top horses who genuninely stay 12f he was found out.

brockguy 11-07-2006 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
He didn't figure to stretch out to 12f with top horses. There is plenty of evidence from his sibings and half-siblings - Dansili, Banks Hill, Heat Haze, Intercontinental - that this bloodline prefers 8-10f. Cacique was already overachieving to win at 11f. When matched with top horses who genuninely stay 12f he was found out.

spot on, only way he gets near the leaders if they crawled early on.. After seeing the first few fractions, I knew Frankie was in the perfect position!

hoovesupsideyourhead 11-07-2006 09:34 AM

its the brock guy.......check out the pics on the other thread..

oracle80 11-07-2006 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
it's possible he could get it, or aragorn. either one of them or english channel. wonder who gets it for turf mare...a few years back high chaparral got it based on one showing in north america, the bc...will they give it to ouija board?

What about the Tin man if he wins his next start? hes undefeated and has beaten EC soundly in their only matchup. Great sentimental story as well that voters often like.

SniperSB23 11-07-2006 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
What about the Tin man if he wins his next start? hes undefeated and has beaten EC soundly in their only matchup. Great sentimental story as well that voters often like.

That is my vote if he can win his next start. Normally I'd vote against a horse that skipped the BC but considering there is nothing between 8 and 12 furlongs on the turf there was really nowhere to run him so I can't fault them for skipping it.

LARHAGE 11-07-2006 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
What about the Tin man if he wins his next start? hes undefeated and has beaten EC soundly in their only matchup. Great sentimental story as well that voters often like.

I forgot about the Tin Man, and I love that old horse. It's really hard though to not like Miesque's Approval, he won at different distances, in top company and showed up to take on everyone on the Championship Day, and what a story! I would still give him the nod over Tin Man.

Cajungator26 11-07-2006 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LARHAGE
I forgot about the Tin Man, and I love that old horse. It's really hard though to not like Miesque's Approval, he won at different distances, in top company and showed up to take on everyone on the Championship Day, and what a story! I would still give him the nod over Tin Man.

I am still upset that I tossed Miesque's Approval. :mad: :p

Honu 11-07-2006 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
What about the Tin man if he wins his next start? hes undefeated and has beaten EC soundly in their only matchup. Great sentimental story as well that voters often like.

Its funny you say that , Dick said something about the same thing the other day, he said if it does happen when he gets up to accept he is going to say "blah blah and Mr. Todd has given me all of the breeding rights " . LOL


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