Baffert jockeys' strategy in the Arkansas Derby.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

I cant believe he would run two of his best shots in the same race in Arkansas, there are alot more races he can put Bodemeister in.

trainers, including baffert, do this fairly often. and no, there aren't a lot of races to get graded earnings for a 3 yo. he's already got his santa anita derby contingent...
of course he might just bring both to have them both on hand and send one elsewhere-perhaps to illinois? but i wouldn't be surprised at all to see them both in the gate in Ar.

[HaloWishingwell]

They're running away from I'll Have Another

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and no, there aren't a lot of races to get graded earnings for a 3 yo.

Talk about arguing for argument's sake.

Wood Memorial. Santa Anita Derby. Blue Grass. Lexington. Illinois Derby.

How many more options do you need for one horse?

he's already got his santa anita derby contingent...

His SA Derby contingent consists of the exposed Liaison, starter allowance horse (and likely turf horse) Blueskiesandrainbows, and 5.5f maiden winner Paynter.

[NTamm1215]

Cross out Baffert's name and write anyone else's in on Paynter's PPs and we'd be destroying that trainer for entering him in the SA Derby.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Talk about arguing for argument's sake.

Wood Memorial. Santa Anita Derby. Blue Grass. Lexington. Illinois Derby.

How many more options do you need for one horse?


His SA Derby contingent consists of the exposed Liaison, starter allowance horse (and likely turf horse) Blueskiesandrainbows, and 5.5f maiden winner Paynter.

i'm referring to bob baffert in particular in that case, with his larger contingent of horses...and noted he already had horses in the santa anita derby. perhaps i worded it incorrectly-my point is that since bob and some others such as pletcher have so many horses, it's hard to keep them apart. didn't tap have three in the la race the other day?
obviously there are races-i know what's out there. but when you have a lot of candidates, you run out of options don't you? and if he's willing to put more than one in at santa anita, why wouldn't he in arkansas?

[Seattleallstar]

why not just keep Bode for the SA Derby, or if he wanted a cupcake spot he could of went to Hawthorne

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

why not just keep Bode for the SA Derby, or if he wanted a cupcake spot he could of went to Hawthorne

Seems like Ahmed Zayat has a hand in all this. He's throwing everything to the fan and hoping something sticks. The hopeless thing he ran in the Florida Derby betrayed his mindset.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

why not just keep Bode for the SA Derby, or if he wanted a cupcake spot he could of went to Hawthorne

Maybe now would be a good time to revisit the ALL-TIME post by Satan's Twin on what would lure and/or keep someone from Hawthorne.

[goodcopy]

Maybe he is trying to win the Arkansan derby and get them both eligible for the Kentucky Derby

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Maybe now would be a good time to revisit the ALL-TIME post by Satan's Twin on what would lure and/or keep someone from Hawthorne.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...6&postcount=40

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...6&postcount=40

Holy crap that's funny.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm referring to bob baffert in particular in that case, with his larger contingent of horses...

He doesn't have a horse in the Wood, Lexington, or Illinois Derby. He also passed on the Louisiana and Florida Derbies.

and noted he already had horses in the santa anita derby.

I noted that his horses in the SA Derby were second-stringers. Seattleallstar had a valid reason to question why Baffert would put his two top candidates in the same race.

...it's hard to keep them apart. didn't tap have three in the la race the other day?

No, he didn't.

obviously there are races-i know what's out there. but when you have a lot of candidates, you run out of options don't you? and if he's willing to put more than one in at santa anita, why wouldn't he in arkansas?

But you said there weren't a lot of options, yet there are. And Baffert isn't running out of options, he's simply not utilizing the other spots for some reason, which is kind of odd, considering he's started and had previous success in the Wood, Louisiana Derby, and Lexington.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

He doesn't have a horse in the Wood, Lexington, or Illinois Derby. He also passed on the Louisiana and Florida Derbies.


I noted that his horses in the SA Derby were second-stringers. Seattleallstar had a valid reason to question why Baffert would put his two top candidates in the same race.


No, he didn't.


But you said there weren't a lot of options, yet there are. And Baffert isn't running out of options, he's simply not utilizing the other spots for some reason, which is kind of odd, considering he's started and had previous success in the Wood, Louisiana Derby, and Lexington.

i know others remarked on him not running in louisiana. i do find that odd since he used to go there rather often. some of the other places as well...i'm sure he's got a reason for limiting himself.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i know others remarked on him not running in louisiana. i do find that odd since he used to go there rather often. some of the other places as well...i'm sure he's got a reason for limiting himself.

Are you forgeting about crossing the Rockies? Very difficult for a horse to do.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

Are you forgeting about crossing the Rockies? Very difficult for a horse to do.

he's crossing them to get to oaklawn.

i just don't understand why some posters think it odd he'd have a multiple entry at oaklawn, when he has multiple entries at santa anita for the derby. i think in the norfolk every year he has more than one entrant. it happens, so what?