NYT Series: "Mangled Horses, Maimed Jockeys"

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

but maybe it opened a few eyes in state gov't?

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...e-drug-testing

im not naive enough to expect change...but its a start

This is actually a frighteningly naive approach that will certainly not do a damn bit of good but will provide cover for the state officials that have proven to be incapable of regulating thier own jurisdiction properly.

The entire out of competition testing thing is a red herring as there are very few things that would have value on raceday that are given 40 days out. Perhaps blood doping but pretty much nothing else. The thing is that the vast majority of positives are called on normal medications at minute levels. You cant do out of competition testing on things that are legal to give. Is it a good tool to have if you have a reasonably good idea that someone is blooddoping? Sure but it doesnt solve most issues and certainly has almost no effect on soundness issues. The idea that you can penalize a trainer for excessive doses of "painkillers" or other drugs usually allowed to treat horses when you have no idea when a horse will be entered is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

When the executive Director of the racing comission says "I hope we have more positives" the problem you have runs far deeper than what goes on at the track.


And yeah that $45k increase....seriously? 45k?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This is actually a frighteningly naive approach that will certainly not do a damn bit of good but will provide cover for the state officials that have proven to be incapable of regulating thier own jurisdiction properly.

The entire out of competition testing thing is a red herring as there are very few things that would have value on raceday that are given 40 days out. Perhaps blood doping but pretty much nothing else.

The thing is that the vast majority of positives are called on normal medications at minute levels. You cant do out of competition testing on things that are legal to give.

Thank you!

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/th...rgstein-award/

Hard to make headway when they keep giving people awards for ripping racing...

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...ut-perception/


So one of the loudest voices that has been making all kinds of wild accusations about medications and been quite willing to severely criticize trainers and vets in the press is now preaching about public perception?

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/th...rgstein-award/

Hard to make headway when they keep giving people awards for ripping racing...

I find it hard to believe that Stan Bergstein would want his name associated with crediting the writers of this Times story based upon the journalistic standards used by the authors.

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.drf.com/news/crist-home-b...times-analysis

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by pointman

I find it hard to believe that Stan Bergstein would want his name associated with crediting the writers of this Times story based upon the journalistic standards used by the authors.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.drf.com/news/jockey-club-...-raceday-lasix

"Jockey Club officials explained on Friday that the rules would seek to change a "culture" on the backstretch that they said encouraged trainers to turn to medications in order to address minor ailments and niggling aches and pains"


So I suppose the new strategy is to simply ignore those issues? Or race horses less....

[Heels1989]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.drf.com/news/jockey-club-...-raceday-lasix

"Jockey Club officials explained on Friday that the rules would seek to change a "culture" on the backstretch that they said encouraged trainers to turn to medications in order to address minor ailments and niggling aches and pains"


So I suppose the new strategy is to simply ignore those issues? Or race horses less....

Come on Chuck. It's all about the Ice Machines now.

[parsixfarms]

The Jockey Club's approach here is typical of why so many things don't get done in the industry. Rather than embrace the large number of reforms on which there seems to be general consensus and get them enacted (see steroids and milkshakes, for recent examples), they badly overreach. The likely result is that, without broad industry support (and there is certainly not broad industry support for the elimination of raceday Lasix), little, if anything, will be accomplished at the various state levels where any such reforms would need to be enacted. Someone needs to tell them the inconvenient truth that they can't do things the way Roger Goodell does.