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Old 03-16-2012, 08:42 AM
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Riot - You want to defend this convoluted system? Go right ahead.

We will flush this thing down the crapper - one way or another - repeal, executive order and waiver - or supreme court.

If we fail, the U.S Government going out of business will do the job.

It is unsustainable and an utterly stupid idea, unworthy even of the president and his party that rammed it through.
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Old 03-16-2012, 03:05 PM
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Riot - You want to defend this convoluted system? Go right ahead.
If you mean, by "convoluted system", the Affordable Care Act? Yes, I have. It's a good start for this country. Now that it's been law for two years, and so many people, including you, are benefiting, it's proven to be a good thing. Which is why Mitch McConnell is not going forward to try and repeal it.

The ACA is not as good as the healthcare systems other countries have, with better healthcare and lower costs, but it's a start.

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We will flush this thing down the crapper - one way or another - repeal, executive order and waiver - or supreme court.
Actually, "we" will defend our right to better and more affordable healthcare

There are only a limited number of legal ways to repeal laws in this country. We don't have dictators who can rule by fiat and simply make laws passed by our Congress go away.

If the Supreme Court finds the mandate unconstitutional (not likely due to Roberts previous rulings, and the long existence in Romney's state, etc) the rest of the law still stands.

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If we fail, the U.S Government going out of business will do the job.
Why do you think the ACA will make the US government go out of business? You mean we'll cease to exist? That's a rather hyperbolic statement, no?

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It is unsustainable and an utterly stupid idea, unworthy even of the president and his party that rammed it through.
Actually, the CBO has scored the ACA as paying for itself, and it's a near duplicate of the Republican healthcare reform idea that the Republicans in Congress wanted to pass in the 1990's.

And this law was passed by both the House and the Senate. It was passed legally and democratically, with your elected officials voting upon it.

The idea of the individual mandate, of making everyone responsible for themselves, was a pure Republican idea. Not from the Democratic party in the least.
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