Tyler Baze - put the whiskey down, son

Originally Posted by Stickhorse

Anybody have an idea what is happening with Tyler now?

[Danzig]

i would imagine what's happening with tyler is that he's still denying he has a problem, that he can quit at any time, but right now he doesn't want to quit drinking.
he will either realize he has a problem and do something about it...or he will decide he doesn't, and will end up dying in an alleyway. feel bad for his family-it can't be fun watching someone self-destruct and be helpless to do anything about it.

[Stickhorse]

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I guess the poor guy has taken to having to book his own mounts for his comeback.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Very classy. You should be so proud. Humor at another hurting human's expense.

What makes the internet such a lovely place.

Hold your head high. It must be a great day for you.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Very classy. You should be so proud. Humor at another hurting human's expense.

What makes the internet such a lovely place.

Hold your head high. It must be a great day for you.

what was wrong with it? the guy is mocking someone who is wasting his life and talents. i don't know that tyler is the victim here. his issues are self-inflicted. he has the ability to rise above it, but right now chooses not to. if he's hurting, it's his own fault.

Originally Posted by Danzig

what was wrong with it? the guy is mocking someone who is wasting his life and talents. i don't know that tyler is the victim here. his issues are self-inflicted. he has the ability to rise above it, but right now chooses not to. if he's hurting, it's his own fault.

If you don't know what's wrong with that posting. Explaining it to you would be useless.

Is it the FAULT of someone that's hurting because of Cancer, or MS or any other debilitating disease? None of those self inflicted.

Your ignorance and insensitivity is even more frightening than Coach's hate.

Unbeileveable!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

If you don't know what's wrong with that posting. Explaining it to you would be useless.

Is it the FAULT of someone that's hurting because of Cancer, or MS or any other debilitating disease?

Your ignorance and insensitivity is even more frightening than Coach's hate.

Unblieveable!

sorry, i've never bought into it being a disease. you can't decide to put down the cancer bottle, or the ms bottle. i think they started calling it a disease so that insurance companies would start covering the treatment, but i'm sure that's just the cynic in me. as for it being an addiction, so hard to overcome...i smoked for 15 years, which was half my life when i quit cold turkey. so, even tho many say it's such a hard nut to crack, i didn't find it to be so at all. you just have to make up your mind. tyler needs to get to that point-the sooner the better.
and funny, those times i have come to your defense on here in the past, i bet you didn't think i was ignorant and insensitive. appreciate that.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Danzig

sorry, i've never bought into it being a disease. you can't decide to put down the cancer bottle, or the ms bottle. i think they started calling it a disease so that insurance companies would start covering the treatment, but i'm sure that's just the cynic in me.
and funny, those times i have come to your defense on here in the past, i bet you didn't think i was ignorant and insensitive. appreciate that.

Originally Posted by Danzig

sorry, i've never bought into it being a disease. you can't decide to put down the cancer bottle, or the ms bottle. i think they started calling it a disease so that insurance companies would start covering the treatment, but i'm sure that's just the cynic in me. as for it being an addiction, so hard to overcome...i smoked for 15 years, which was half my life when i quit cold turkey. so, even tho many say it's such a hard nut to crack, i didn't find it to be so at all. you just have to make up your mind. tyler needs to get to that point-the sooner the better.
and funny, those times i have come to your defense on here in the past, i bet you didn't think i was ignorant and insensitive. appreciate that.

Coming to my defense over internet drivel and not knowing what the entire worldwide medical community now agree upon is two very different things.

"You just have to make up your mind" Good chance those are the 8 most assinine words ever posted on any message board about any subject.

Unbelieveable!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Coming to my defense over internet drivel and not knowing what the entire worldwide medical community now agree upon is two very different things.

"You just have to make up your mind" Good chance those are the 8 most assinine words ever posted on any message board about any subject.

Unbelieveable!

i'm pretty sure that i've heard people say many times that there are people who have to hit rock bottom before they realize that's where they'd been headed all along, and then decide to do something about it. that's what i meant by 'you have to make up your mind'. sadly, not everyone hits rock bottom and is able to pull themselves back up. some shoot right thru the bottom.
forgive my being so asinine; make no mistake, i do hope tyler is able to pull himself out of his mess. it always boggles my mind when people waste their life.

tyler's in a bad spot, and i do hope he gets out of it.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

If you don't know what's wrong with that posting. Explaining it to you would be useless.

Is it the FAULT of someone that's hurting because of Cancer, or MS or any other debilitating disease? None of those self inflicted.

Your ignorance and insensitivity is even more frightening than Coach's hate.

Unbeileveable!

Yeah Vic....... an alcoholic who has had many chances to straighten out and people who get cancer is a great comparison. You are a jagoff of the highest order.

Nice job with that whining letter where you completely threw Wrona under the bus. Funny coming from a guy who all the time preaches about the announcers "brotherhood". What's next? You gonna slash John Dooley's tires hoping he will miss work and get fired from Fair Grounds....then send a letter begging for the job?

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Yeah Vic....... an alcoholic who has had many chances to straighten out and people who get cancer is a great comparison. You are a jagoff of the highest order.

Nice job with that whining letter where you completely threw Wrona under the bus. Funny coming from a guy who all the time preaches about the announcers "brotherhood". What's next? You gonna slash John Dooley's tires hoping he will miss work and get fired from Fair Grounds....then send a letter begging for the job?

Alcoholism and Cancer are both diseases.

Don't take my word for it.

You're a learned person.

Do the research.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Alcoholism and Cancer are both diseases.

Don't take my word for it.

You're a learned person.

Do the research.

Sorry Vic...I don't buy it. You want to call them diseases...fine. One disease you have absolutely no control of getting it, the other "disease" you have complete control of getting it. You should be ashamed of grouping them together as similar.

Baze had a huge career in front of him and threw it all away for booze. He's weak...end of story.

[trackrat59]

Originally Posted by Danzig

what was wrong with it? the guy is mocking someone who is wasting his life and talents. i don't know that tyler is the victim here. his issues are self-inflicted. he has the ability to rise above it, but right now chooses not to. if he's hurting, it's his own fault.

Perhaps not. That's what's wrong with your theory.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by trackrat59

Perhaps not. That's what's wrong with your theory.

alcoholics can't rise above it? really? i worked with a guy who realized he had a problem and quit drinking years ago. i think he rose above it quite nicely.

[trackrat59]

Danzig:

There are plenty of people that can't stop drinking. It does seem like a simple concept - just stop drinking. It doesn't work that way.

Some of us have been turned upside down by somone who just could not stop drinking.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by trackrat59

Danzig:

There are plenty of people that can't stop drinking. It does seem like a simple concept - just stop drinking. It doesn't work that way.

Some of us have been turned upside down by somone who just could not stop drinking.

Originally Posted by trackrat59

Danzig:

There are plenty of people that can't stop drinking. It does seem like a simple concept - just stop drinking. It doesn't work that way.

Some of us have been turned upside down by somone who just could not stop drinking.

I have been. 3 times. Dad, Brother, Best Friend. All gone now.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by trackrat59

Danzig:

There are plenty of people that can't stop drinking. It does seem like a simple concept - just stop drinking. It doesn't work that way.

Some of us have been turned upside down by somone who just could not stop drinking.

which is why i said what i did regarding his family members. it's got to be heart wrenching to have to sit and watch someone destroy himself. those are the people who have my deepest sympathies. they are the real victims. the parents, friends and family members-you see it occurring, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Very classy. You should be so proud. Humor at another hurting human's expense.

What makes the internet such a lovely place.

Hold your head high. It must be a great day for you.

It wasn't meant to be classy, you histrionic fop.

Humor at the expense of others is timeless.

The internet was a lovely place. You'll have internet 2.0 soon where speech is monitored and censored so your fragile mind can be at ease.

It was a great day. Sunny and 70.