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Old 02-10-2012, 07:24 AM
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Looks like a Southern Cal speedball. Very good horse but maybe not Derby type.
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Old 02-10-2012, 09:27 AM
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Old 02-10-2012, 10:07 AM
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Thats not a bad number at all. And he looked pretty good to me doing it.
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:21 AM
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so long/short his value in the 1st pool of KD is gonna be zilcho???? I know i know that future bets are dumb but my wife and i just had a new baby and i haven't had time to reallyl do much horse racing wise and it owuld give me something to watch for.
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:53 AM
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Not bred like a speedball or an early maturing type at all. He's been in what appear to be among the strongest of the races for his generation at his level. He won nicely on the stretchout and beat a colt that came back to win. I don't they paid $950k for a horse that might win the Pat O'Brien. He's got all the earmarks of a classic colt.
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:50 PM
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Not bred like a speedball or an early maturing type at all. He's been in what appear to be among the strongest of the races for his generation at his level. He won nicely on the stretchout and beat a colt that came back to win. I don't they paid $950k for a horse that might win the Pat O'Brien. He's got all the earmarks of a classic colt.
Gonna play Devil's advocate on this one.

Fed Biz has been close to hot paces in his last 2. He was the leader at the 3/4 point of call in both those races, where the fraction for both at a one mile distance was 1:10+. It's conceivable that Fed Biz would be the frontrunner in subsequent starts as a horse like Consulado (who was previously ear-marked for the 7f San Vicente before the allowance race came up) is unlikely to continue on to the 9f preps.

As far as pedigree, the Fed Biz, through the dam, descends from a family that includes champion Euro 2yo Minardi (won sprints), worldwide champion 2yo Johannesburg (all Euro wins sprinting; lone US win at one turn), Tale Of The Cat (a frontrunner, who's only stakes win came in a sprint), Preach (G1 2yo, cut back to sprints at 3), and Pulpit (a frontrunning A.P. Indy colt who ran 7f in 1:21+ in his debut). The dam herself was a frontrunner who's only stakes win (4 for 5 lifetime) came in a sprint.

Giant's Causeway was a Group 1 winner at 2, did most of his subsequent running at a flat mile, and the majority of his offspring shows early speed over a route of ground.

There's nothing but precocity and speed in this colt's immediate pedigree. And all that ignores the fact that his trainer prefers his runners to be on or near the pace to begin with.
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:08 PM
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I think it's a classic speed-route pedigree.

The sire was a close 2nd to Tiznow in the Breeders Cup Classic. The dam sire won the Breeders Cup Classic wire-to-wire.

The dam won her only route start over a next-out stakes winner -- and she is a half sister to Tale of the Cat who was 2nd to Awesome Again in the Whitney and was beaten less than 3 lengths as just a 3rd time starter in a Haskell field loaded with five excellent horses. Those being his only two career tries at 9f's or beyond.
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Old 02-10-2012, 09:44 AM
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Looks like a Southern Cal speedball. Very good horse but maybe not Derby type.
He's hardly a 'California speedball' having already displayed his 2 turn predilection in the back to back mile wins without rankness and is bred top and bottom to go a real route of ground.
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