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Originally Posted by wiphan

Obama received campaign donations from solyndra and Ener1. Both of these companies were reviewed for loans/grants by prior administrations and denied based on their business plans and financial sitaution.

Solyndra majority shareholder ownership is wealthy Republicans, like the Walton family.

And you have other facts omitted: The Bush administration approved the loan to Solyndra, trying to rush it through, but the Department of Energy said no, the documents submitted by Solyndra were not complete, what what was there didn't look good. That loan approval was held over until during the Obama administration before the loan documents were completed, then the DOE approved the loan based upon the updated documents.

The documents submitted by Solyndra to the DOE had lies included by the company to gain the loan, providing false information about the company not consistent with the financial reality surrounding the loan.

It's hard to make a conspiracy theory up when all the facts are included.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Solyndra majority shareholder ownership is wealthy Republicans, like the Walton family.

And you have other facts omitted: The Bush administration approved the loan to Solyndra, trying to rush it through, but the Department of Energy said no, the documents submitted by Solyndra were not complete, what what was there didn't look good. That loan approval was held over until during the Obama administration before the loan documents were completed, then the DOE approved the loan based upon the updated documents.

The documents submitted by Solyndra to the DOE had lies included by the company to gain the loan, providing false information about the company not consistent with the reality.

It's hard to make a conspiracy theory up when all the facts are included.

Solyndra’s loan application was filed during President Bush’s term, but the Solyndra loan was denied by the Bush administration less than two weeks before Bush left office on January 9, 2009. As soon as Obama took office, his administration reversed the denial of the loan and put the ill-advised loan, which had thrown up many red flags that the Bush administration caught, but the Obama administration ignored, on a fast-track to receive the same loan that the Bush administration denied days before.

Do you know who George Kaiser is?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Solyndra’s loan application was filed during President Bush’s term, but the Solyndra loan was denied by the Bush administration less than two weeks before Bush left office on January 9, 2009.

Denied by the DOE. Not the administration.

As soon as Obama took office, his administration reversed the denial of the loan and put the ill-advised loan,

No, they did not. Solyndra was still in the process of submitting additional documents, and the administration had to wait until DOE got those additional documents - which had fake information submitted by Solyndra - for the approval to go through.
The administration had to wait on DOE. DOE approved the loan based upon the merits of the application - which Solyndra lied upon to get the loan.

which had thrown up many red flags that the Bush administration caught but the Obama administration ignored, on a fast-track to receive the same loan that the Bush administration denied days before.

No. The above is only the false coloring of the anti-Obama conspiracy theorists. The regular, lifetime government workers in the DOE caught the red flags during the Bush administration, and approved the loan based upon the falsified documents under the Obama administration. The executive branch does not approve these loans.

The change of administrations was merely coincidental, not the massive conspiracy you and others believe.

Do you know who George Kaiser is?

Yes, he was one of the stockholders of Solyndra. Can you name the other, major Republican stockholders of Solyndra? Aside from the Walton Family? Why do you ignore that the majority ownership of Solyndra were big money Republican donors?

Can you see why the "Obama Solyndra Scandal" has only taken hold within the Obama Derangement Syndrome folks? Because the accusation of "scandal" doesn't stand up to any superficially intelligent review of the facts surrounding the case. Which everyone else figured out as soon as the alleged "scandal" was first revealed. But that never stops a dedicated wingnut.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Denied by the DOE. Not the administration.


No, they did not. Solyndra was still in the process of submitting additional documents, and the administration had to wait until DOE got those additional documents - which had fake information submitted by Solyndra - for the approval to go through.
The administration had to wait on DOE.



No. The above is only the false coloring of the anti-Obama conspiracy theorists.



Yes, he was one of the stockholders of Solyndra. Can you name the other, major Republican stockholders of Solyndra? Aside from the Walton Family?

Is George Kaiser a republican?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Is George Kaiser a republican?

No, he's Democratic and contributed to Obama's campaign, while other shareholders of Solyndra, the majority, happen to be Republican and contributed to Bush. Stop ignoring that.

Unfortunately, while both administrations wanted to capitalize on the publicity of a loan to a promising upstart solar energy company, Solyndra lied on the documentation to get the loan. The loan was first disproved, not by "Bush", but by the regular workers in the DOE, and the loan was subsequently approved, not by "Obama", but by those same regular workers in the DOE. Unfortunately Solyndra faces penalty for lying to the government to get the loan approved.

Stop with the "Solyndra is an Obama Scandal!" That's as ridiculous and false as "he's a Muslim Kenyan!", and everyone else in the world knows it.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, he's Democratic and contributed to Obama's campaign, while other shareholders of Solyndra, the majority, happen to be Republican and contributed to Bush. Stop ignoring that.

Unfortunately, while both administrations wanted to capitalize on the publicity of a loan to a promising upstart solar energy company, Solyndra lied on the documentation to get the loan. The loan was first disproved, not by "Bush", but by the regular workers in the DOE, and the loan was subsequently approved, not by "Obama", but by those same regular workers in the DOE. Unfortunately Solyndra faces penalty for lying to the government to get the loan approved.

Stop with the "Solyndra is an Obama Scandal!" That's as ridiculous and false as "he's a Muslim Kenyan!", and everyone else in the world knows it.

Thoughts on "Enron1" (thx Uncle Joe!)

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Thoughts on "Enron1" (thx Uncle Joe!)

No thanks. You and Uncle Joe go ahead and explain that to us.

Although, if you refuse to acknowledge the obvious roaring success of the administration betting on the American auto industry, you can't really ignore that while trying to also blame the administration for any failures in the Green energy industry.

But I know that won't stop some :-)