NY Toll worker salaries..WOW

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

And we need to tax and spend more to get out of this recession!

This country is in big trouble if the politicians don't stop catering to the unions and continue to hold the private sector responsible for paying these ridiculously bloated salaries and pensions that we simply cannot afford.

Yes. $60,000 a year for a long-time public employee is terrible. We should be paying them minimum wage with zero pension, zero healthcare, and zero benefits.

Everyone knows it's the bloated former middle class, working 60 hours a week to afford a family and house, that has sucked this country dry.

Out of hundreds of toll workers, "twenty-four toll collectors at the bi-state agency have made more than $80,000 so far in 2011 — payments pumped up by massive overtime. Seven of those workers took in $90,000 or more."

Wow. Truly a scandal. That the toll authority isn't hiring more workers, but letting the workers that earn $40,000 a year work "massive overtime".

Because, you know, overworking current employees, versus hiring more, saves massive money in additional healthcare and pensions - wouldn't want that!

Oh. My. God. What a life of luxury. To earn less than $60,000 a year. With the opportunity to work 60 hours a week if you want a small bungalow and a family life in NY or NJ. If you're lucky and a "top earner".

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes. $60,000 a year for a long-time public employee is terrible. We should be paying them minimum wage with zero pension, zero healthcare, and zero benefits.

Everyone knows it's the bloated former middle class, working 60 hours a week to afford a family and house, that has sucked this country dry.

Out of hundreds of toll workers, "twenty-four toll collectors at the bi-state agency have made more than $80,000 so far in 2011 — payments pumped up by massive overtime. Seven of those workers took in $90,000 or more."

Wow. Truly a scandal. That the toll authority isn't hiring more workers, but letting the workers that earn $40,000 a year work "massive overtime".

Because, you know, overworking current employees, versus hiring more, saves massive money in additional healthcare and pensions - wouldn't want that!

Oh. My. God. What a life of luxury. To earn less than $60,000 a year. With the opportunity to work 60 hours a week if you want a small bungalow and a family life in NY or NJ. If you're lucky and a "top earner".

Point made....next ignorant attempt to blame the middle class for the country's mess....Really folks, if you are gonna go up against Riot, you need at least some facts...

[Antitrust32]

good for them. 100k isnt an extreme amount of money anyway.

[Cannon Shell]

LOL

Pay a $14 toll to cross a bridge and you will be thrilled that people who do close to nothing are making $100k a year.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

LOL

Pay a $14 toll to cross a bridge and you will be thrilled that people who do close to nothing are making $100k a year.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

LOL

Pay a $14 toll to cross a bridge and you will be thrilled that people who do close to nothing are making $100k a year.

Yeah cause they are the cause of all our problems. How thrilled are you when you pay over three dollars a gallon for gas while oil companies post record profits?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Yeah cause they are the cause of all our problems. How thrilled are you when you pay over three dollars a gallon for gas while oil companies post record profits?

Who said they are the casue of all our problems but it is pretty maddening when the tolls were raised $4 per trip and you have people taking money and gardening making 90k a year. Makes you wonder what else is money being blown on. Making change in a toll booth or cutting the lawn isnt worth 90k a year of taxpayers (and bridge/tunnel drivers) money.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

LOL

Pay a $14 toll to cross a bridge and you will be thrilled that people who do close to nothing are making $100k a year.

You mean all one of them? The one that earned it by working 60 hours a week?

Yeah. It's all his fault. He's out to get you.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

You mean all one of them? The one that earned it by working 60 hours a week?

Yeah. It's all his fault. He's out to get you.

He's absolutely demonic, got horns and stuff! Now the CEO of your local HMO who makes over 10 million a year, he's a good guy...always smiles when he tells you your mother's lifesaving treatment is too expensive! But of course, he's a "job creator"....keeps those funeral home employees in work.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

He's absolutely demonic, got horns and stuff! Now the CEO of your local HMO who makes over 10 million a year, he's a good guy...always smiles when he tells you your mother's lifesaving treatment is too expensive! But of course, he's a "job creator"....keeps those funeral home employees in work.

One has nothing to do with another witch boy

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

You mean all one of them? The one that earned it by working 60 hours a week?

Yeah. It's all his fault. He's out to get you.

You think it is kosher that people who make change are making 80-100k a year of tax payer money? This after a $4 per trip toll increase?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You think it is kosher that people who make change are making 80-100k a year of tax payer money? This after a $4 per trip toll increase?

You mean the 24 out of 147 who earned that working 60 hours a week?

Yeah, it's all their fault, horse boy.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

LOL

Pay a $14 toll to cross a bridge and you will be thrilled that people who do close to nothing are making $100k a year.

Stop attacking the middle class! The poor and the middle class don't have to pay this toll increase to go to their jobs in the private sector.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Point made....next ignorant attempt to blame the middle class for the country's mess....Really folks, if you are gonna go up against Riot, you need at least some facts...

Here is a fact. Retirement pensions will cost New York City taxpayers $8.7 billion in 2012, up from $1.5 billion in 2002. Please tell me under what model that is equitable or sustainable?

Please tell me where I blamed the middle class in my statement?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

Here is a fact. Retirement pensions will cost New York City taxpayers $8.7 billion in 2012, up from $1.5 billion in 2002. Please tell me under what model that is equitable or sustainable?

The model where you promised that benefit to people, if they would work a lifetime for you and the public sector, and now you have to pay them what you've promised them over the past decades.

Gee. It's not like this is any surprise. Considering the city itself negotiated and agree to pay these benefits.

Duh.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

The model where you promised that benefit to people, if they would work a lifetime for you and the public sector, and now you have to pay them what you've promised them over the past decades.

Gee. It's not like this is any surprise. Considering the city itself negotiated and agree to pay these benefits.

Duh.

Union workers dont work a "lifetime" for anyone. They retire to nice pensions which the rest of us pay for.

The old "city negotiated this deal" excuse. Because we all know that unions have never influenced elections in NYC. We all know that the unions would never strike or make out of touch demands to those same politicians that they put in place. We all know that union leaders know that it doesnt matter how badly they screw the city with these deals that the state or feds will ride to the rescue. Is Hazel Dukes your idol?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Union workers dont work a "lifetime" for anyone. They retire to nice pensions which the rest of us pay for.

The old "city negotiated this deal" excuse. Because we all know that unions have never influenced elections in NYC. We all know that the unions would never strike or make out of touch demands to those same politicians that they put in place. We all know that union leaders know that it doesnt matter how badly they screw the city with these deals that the state or feds will ride to the rescue. Is Hazel Dukes your idol?

Too bad the toll increases don't appear to have anything to do with the unions.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Too bad the toll increases don't appear to have anything to do with the unions.

Everything in state and local govt in NY has something to do with unions. To deny this is to deny all logic.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

Too bad the toll increases don't appear to have anything to do with the unions.

Really? The increases that were put in place to close the Port Authority's budget which the Port Authority could not balance in large part because of the salaries and benefits negotiated by the unions?

Not to mention that the job is obsolete and every toll collector could be eliminated and replaced by machines at a much cheaper cost except that the union contracts protect unneccessary jobs?

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Union workers dont work a "lifetime" for anyone. They retire to nice pensions which the rest of us pay for.

The old "city negotiated this deal" excuse. Because we all know that unions have never influenced elections in NYC. We all know that the unions would never strike or make out of touch demands to those same politicians that they put in place. We all know that union leaders know that it doesnt matter how badly they screw the city with these deals that the state or feds will ride to the rescue. Is Hazel Dukes your idol?

you would almost be amusing if you weren't so pathetic. I've got news for you. You don't pay **** for pensions. the workers pay into it every week and who gets to use the money to make more money? .....the guys who pay the pensions. Thats how it works genius. Why do you think some guys make all that money in OT ? it's because no one else will work it. most won't even consider it. Ya know why ? because the job rots your brain as well as your lungs. You try standing on the GW on a february night when it's 4 degrees out and the wind is howling. Try standing in a booth all day...6 am - 10 pm. for the ot. then rush home to sleep a couple of hours and do it again. Lets not forget all the abuse ya have to take from a bunch of "brave in their car" "half a sissies" who wouldn't dare look at you like that in the street, without catching a slap. it all looks so easy....until you try it. You wouldn't last a week out there. After the first day you'd be home crying for your mother. When was the last 16 hour day you put in ? Actually with all the whining you do, you'd probably fit right in.