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Old 10-04-2011, 10:07 AM
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I'm not sure they really exceeded regular season expectations either. This was the staff that was annointed "best since..." before the season started. They had a very good year, but they more or less did what was expected.
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Old 10-04-2011, 10:19 AM
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And none of that means jack if they can't at least make it out of the divisional series.
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Old 10-04-2011, 10:23 AM
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there's no critism that comes from you slot that I'd agree with.

But there is plenty others I do agree with.

especially when its about that stupid football team.
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Old 10-04-2011, 10:24 AM
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they have one of the best regular seasons when it comes to starting pitching in the history of baseball... but you come up with "what about oswalt?" when the man was injured all year.

We'll see what he does on Wednesday.. thats all that matters now.
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Old 10-04-2011, 10:38 AM
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The point someone was making is that the Phillies are at least spending their money well. Paying Oswalt $12 million for this season was not money well spent under any definition. Paying Raul Ibanez $12.17 million for a below average OPS+ is even worse. The Phillies paid Brad Lidge nearly $1 million for every inning he pitched this season.

Disagree with whatever you'd like, but if the point someone is making is that the Phillies have universarlly spent their money well, there's no arguing that they haven't.
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Old 10-04-2011, 10:47 AM
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The point someone was making is that the Phillies are at least spending their money well. Paying Oswalt $12 million for this season was not money well spent under any definition. Paying Raul Ibanez $12.17 million for a below average OPS+ is even worse. The Phillies paid Brad Lidge nearly $1 million for every inning he pitched this season.

Disagree with whatever you'd like, but if the point someone is making is that the Phillies have universarlly spent their money well, there's no arguing that they haven't.
well shi.t, you could say that about ever team in every sports league in America. Especially when you point out injured players. I mean look at the Cardinals. They paid Adam Wainwright 6.6 million and he didnt even make one start!
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Old 10-04-2011, 10:51 AM
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$6.6 million for a guy who finished in the top three in Cy Young voting the previous two seasons isn't a ton. But yeah, there isn't much value in any contract where a guy misses the entire season.
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