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Old 10-01-2011, 03:19 PM
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Jaime Spencer tried really, really hard to get Cape Blanco beat. He sucks.
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Old 10-01-2011, 03:31 PM
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Giant Ryan team told BC's Jim Gluckson they will pay the $100k to get the Vosburgh winner into the program to contest the Sprint.
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Jaime Spencer tried really, really hard to get Cape Blanco beat. He sucks.
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Nice effort by Uncle Mo, but I'm curious what Nakatani's plan was exactly on Jackson Bend?
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Old 10-01-2011, 03:51 PM
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Nice effort by Uncle Mo, but I'm curious what Nakatani's plan was exactly on Jackson Bend?
Whatever the plan was failed and doubt he gets a call back on Jackson Bend
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Old 10-01-2011, 03:55 PM
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JV rode the tractor rut the whole way around. Which left Nakatani his only option to skim the rail and try and surprise JV.. Ended up not having enough horse. No shame getting beat by Mo in 33 4/5 under one back handed whip.
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Old 10-01-2011, 03:58 PM
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JV rode the tractor rut the whole way around. Which left Nakatani his only option to skim the rail and try and surprise JV.. Ended up not having enough horse. No shame getting beat by Mo in 33 4/5 under one back handed whip.
His move was also more premature than Newbomb Turk's with Fran Drescher in Hollywood Knights.
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Old 10-01-2011, 04:22 PM
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His move was also more premature than Newbomb Turk's with Fran Drescher in Hollywood Knights.
Visually it looked premature. If he sits and waits he still runs second. Either way he was not going to win the way the track is playing. I'm sure Zito and Nakatani knew they had to be within striking distance for them to have a chance at beating Mo.
Royal Delta faced the same problem later on. They tried to stay with HDG early on and she lost her punch but was good enough to be second best.
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Old 10-01-2011, 04:15 PM
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Nice effort by Uncle Mo, but I'm curious what Nakatani's plan was exactly on Jackson Bend?
Not sure if he could have anything different to make it even close. Fast pace, closed fast and fell short
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Not sure if he could have anything different to make it even close. Fast pace, closed fast and fell short
You don't need to make your move on the turn like that at Belmont. It takes great energy from the horse and almost never works. And to then try to stay inside assured a loss of momentum if they couldn't get through, and bingo. I don't think Jackson Bend beats Uncle Mo anyway, but he was excellent again today and not necessarily used to best advantage by Nakatani.
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:53 PM
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You don't need to make your move on the turn like that at Belmont. It takes great energy from the horse and almost never works. And to then try to stay inside assured a loss of momentum if they couldn't get through, and bingo. I don't think Jackson Bend beats Uncle Mo anyway, but he was excellent again today and not necessarily used to best advantage by Nakatani.
True enough I suppose. I'll stand by my belief though that Nak thought he was giving his horse his best chance of winning.

All in all, I'll give JB credit. He ran a huge race. Of the races I saw today, his was the best, most surprising performance.

I also think Stay Thirsty ran a bigger race than I expected. I figured him not hitting the board.

It was stunning seeing Flat Out not being the heavy favorite.
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Old 10-01-2011, 06:26 PM
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After seeing how poorly Blind Luck ran today and considering she also missed whatever race over the summer they were going to run in, you have to give Havre De Grace a lot of credit. She came back from that grueling Delaware race and has run two very sharp races.
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Old 10-01-2011, 06:38 PM
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I also think Stay Thirsty ran a bigger race than I expected. I figured him not hitting the board.

It was stunning seeing Flat Out not being the heavy favorite.
As in the Travers, Stay Thirsty looked like he was backing up on the turn, but once again when asked and hard ridden, he responded to persevere. He's an interesting horse.

Andy tweeted too about Flat Out being shockingly underbet. The Scooter factor?
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:49 PM
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Nice effort by Uncle Mo, but I'm curious what Nakatani's plan was exactly on Jackson Bend?
At first I thought WTF too.

Then I reconsidered. As much as I cannot stand Nak, I think he rode the race that gave him his only chance of winning. No way he could possibly have won with Mo saying loose like that. Not that he was going to win anyways, but at least that ride gave him a small hope that Mo might fold when challenged.
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At first I thought WTF too.

Then I reconsidered. As much as I cannot stand Nak, I think he rode the race that gave him his only chance of winning. No way he could possibly have won with Mo saying loose like that. Not that he was going to win anyways, but at least that ride gave him a small hope that Mo might fold when challenged.
It didn't matter because I don't think JB was winning either (especially with no one challing Uncle Mo early), but the problem I have with the move was that when he almost made the lead they still had a quarter of a mile to go. That was in a 23.2 quarter where Jackson Bend probably ran 22.3 making up about 5 lengths. What could of he really had for the stretch at that point? I just think that they would have better off served waiting until they got into the lane to try to get Mo. Maybe he would have gotten lazy and not seen him coming or JV could have ended up on the rail. The result probably would have been the same, but I just thinking that going after him late would have been better than going after him with still a quarter left to run.
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Old 10-01-2011, 10:57 PM
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It didn't matter because I don't think JB was winning either (especially with no one challing Uncle Mo early), but the problem I have with the move was that when he almost made the lead they still had a quarter of a mile to go. That was in a 23.2 quarter where Jackson Bend probably ran 22.3 making up about 5 lengths. What could of he really had for the stretch at that point? I just think that they would have better off served waiting until they got into the lane to try to get Mo. Maybe he would have gotten lazy and not seen him coming or JV could have ended up on the rail. The result probably would have been the same, but I just thinking that going after him late would have been better than going after him with still a quarter left to run.
As a rather lunatic fan of anything sired by Indian Charlie, I was glad JB made that move so that Uncle Mo would get something out of the race.

I agree that premature move or late move, it wouldn't have mattered in the end, but I don't think it was even slightly possible for JB to have won the race considering all of the race dynamics, had he waited later to move.
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Old 10-02-2011, 12:39 PM
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Looking at the stakes results it's no wonder why people play slots instead. Of course you're dealing with a sport full of yokels who've lost their competitive spirit and plan their campaigns like an overprotective mother. No wonder why these top horses are so garbage.

Ducking Uncle Mo? There really isn't much hope for the future if that's happening.
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Jaime Spencer tried really, really hard to get Cape Blanco beat. He sucks.
Jamie Spencer, tweeting from Belmont...

JPSPENCER1980JamieSpencer So chuffed with Cape Blanco, show me a tougher horse and I'll call u a liar! Go steady
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Old 10-01-2011, 04:01 PM
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Jaime Spencer tried really, really hard to get Cape Blanco beat. He sucks.
Horse probably did not like the surface today. I would not blame Spencer as he really worked hard to get this horse cross the finish line.
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Old 10-01-2011, 04:07 PM
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Horse probably did not like the surface today. I would not blame Spencer as he really worked hard to get this horse cross the finish line.
Didn't look like any of them liked the surface. But Spencer moved prematurely. It never should have been that close. He worked hard because he moved so early.

Again, he sucks.
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