obamas job proposal

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not remotely close to what I said.



Not according to the facts I see, but you're entitled to your own opinion.



It is when consumers have zero money, because they are unemployed. Wal Mart welcomes those with food aid cards. Because otherwise they are not selling food.



Yeah, the investment accounts of the "common investor" have been reaping gains averaging 8% a year since 1996, haven't they? Whoops - no, they have not.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Bernan...00699.html?x=0

So Wal Mart isnt selling food if not for food stamps?

8% a year? That is your standard? Why pick 1996? Why not 1986 or 1976?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Bernan...00699.html?x=0

So Wal Mart isnt selling food if not for food stamps?

8% a year? That is your standard? Why pick 1996? Why not 1986 or 1976?

"Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said Thursday that he's surprised by how cautious consumers remain more than two years since the recession officially ended. "

And they give this guy the keys? He has no idea why people aren't spending?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by jms62

"Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said Thursday that he's surprised by how cautious consumers remain more than two years since the recession officially ended. "

And they give this guy the keys? He has no idea why people aren't spending?

I guess he doesn't read the papers

well I guess no one reads papers anymore

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I guess he doesn't read the papers

well I guess no one reads papers anymore

Does the New York Times on my IPAD count?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by jms62

Does the New York Times on my IPAD count?

no ink, no paper!

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

yet another fail by the da prez..

pretty bad when rolling stone has had enough of his bs

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...ymore-20110906

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So Wal Mart isnt selling food if not for food stamps?

Sigh ... Sorry, refuse to have a discussion if this simplistic nonsense is your idea of debate.

8% a year? That is your standard? Why pick 1996? Why not 1986 or 1976?

Yes, 8% a year has been the historical 20th century stock market return if you invested and let it be without trying to time any markets. That's long gone. Of course, when I was young, savings accounts payed 5 1/4%.

That regular rate of return ended when Wall Street stopped being people investing capitalization in corporate American company growth and longevity, and became a gambling casino.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Sigh ... Sorry, refuse to have a discussion if this simplistic nonsense is your idea of debate.



.

Post 45
You wrote it!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Post 45
You wrote it!

Oh for god's sake. Yes, I wrote, "Wal Mart welcomes those with food aid cards. Because otherwise they are not selling food."

Now, if you want to take that statement as I somehow think that Wal Mart only sells to people with food stamps, go ahead and be ridiculously black and white. I gave you far more credit than that.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, 8% a year has been the historical 20th century stock market return if you invested and let it be without trying to time any markets. That's long gone. Of course, when I was young, savings accounts payed 5 1/4%.

That regular rate of return ended when Wall Street stopped being people investing capitalization in corporate American company growth and longevity, and became a gambling casino.

http://www.analyzeindices.com/dow-jones-history.shtml

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.analyzeindices.com/dow-jones-history.shtml

I'll see your opinion piece on the failure of the stimulus from the Wall Street Journal, and raise you nine fiscal studies saying the opposite:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bibJ_blog.html

[Riot]

Help the economy - adopt a job creator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVwbY...layer_embedded

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'll see your opinion piece on the failure of the stimulus from the Wall Street Journal, and raise you nine fiscal studies saying the opposite:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bibJ_blog.html

Doesnt anyone read links anymore?

Uh there are 2 of your 9 that said it didnt work and 4 of the others are based on modeling (i.e. guessing)

If it worked so well why are things still so bad?

[horseofcourse]

Obama's a price is right girl...a spokesmodel for global corporate capitalism, nothing to see here. His opponent in the next election cycle will be his clone. Are people still having trouble figuring this out?? It's a clown show and nothing more.

...and like clockwork the credible, unspecified terror threat. Derp de derp derp. Baaaaaaaa

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Doesnt anyone read links anymore?

Uh there are 2 of your 9 that said it didnt work and 4 of the others are based on modeling (i.e. guessing)

Interesting interpretation. Much more credible to listen to an anti-Obama op-ed.

If it worked so well why are things still so bad?

It's just that simple. Right

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Interesting interpretation. Much more credible to listen to an anti-Obama op-ed.



It's just that simple. Right

So flawed studies are the way to go? The same dopes who put those studies out are cut from the forecasting cloth of the idiots Obama hired that said the stimulus would prevent unemployment from reaching 8%.

Surely you read the "op-ed" piece which detailed a study which took real data from real people (unlike forecasting which is like taking Mike Watchmakers selections as fact) and showed the flaws that are being misinterpreted in other studies?

Of course the stimulus worked. Look at how the economy is growing. Look at how unemployment has gone down. Look at how the mood of the country has brightened. Look at Obama's ratings, surely the continued slump in those numbers can't be fallout from his hugely successful stimulus package because everybody loves Obamacare so it couldnt possibly be that either. Look at all those "shovel-ready" project that were completed. Look at the consumer spending. Surely the stimulus was a home run...