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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

They also have a very small percentage of our population. Makes it a bit easier. Oh yeah, things seem to be going very well for all of those countries too . Except Germany of course.

What number of people do you think is limiting for having a single payer system,and why? (not "nationally" provided health care)

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

What number of people do you think is limiting for having a single payer system,and why? (not "nationally" provided health care)

300MM is way too many, even half that is way too many. It would be a bureaucratic nightmare, like virtually everything else our government is currently responsible for. If the population growth continues at the rate over the last 30 years (mathematically it will expand much faster) we will have 450MM by 2040. Then what, huh?

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

300MM is way too many, even half that is way too many.

Based upon what? Do you have anything to back up your purely arbitrary, pulled-from-a-hat choice of figures?

It would be a bureaucratic nightmare, like virtually everything else our government is currently responsible for.

The "government" is responsible for Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, our veterans (TRICARE) and SCHIPS. They seem to do pretty damn well. Not perfect, but damn - those are some good programs. My parents get their Social Security check like clockwork on the same date every month. They go to the doctor, and submit their Medicare claims. No "bureaucratic nightmares" involved at all. Quite reliable, predictable and easy, in fact.

You want to eliminate them all, I suppose?

If the population growth continues at the rate over the last 30 years (mathematically it will expand much faster) we will have 450MM by 2040. Then what, huh?

Then we have to believe your arbitrary numbers have already been proven as true, why?

We could have more healthy people in the pool lowering cost and risk for everyone.

Or, population could level out, as is predicted by nearly everyone (not the growth you are saying will happen)

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[quote] You never address anything realistically. Any and all real math is shot down or completely ignored. Any arguments that point out what is wrong are responded to with something meant to tug at the heartstrings. I feel bad for you, your life must be awful for you to spend so much time here trying to convince people that the federal government is and should be the cure all for everyone's problems.
Perhaps GE could donate their fair share and that would take care of an awful lot were the government capable, in any way, of handling money. Obama should just ask Immelt for the money that company should have paid just last year alone and solve these issues for millions of your downtrodden.
You are unable to learn or even look at things from any other perspective than your own. I am through debating with you, it is pointless. [quote]

Done here too.