Jan Schakowsky release awesome Jobs Bill

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Even the President knows Jan Schakowsky is crazy. You realize oil companies employ people no? Start small, give jan a dollar bill and let her show her trick of turning it into a $1.60.

BTW Is her husband still in prison or out?

Give me a religious man/woman before a crazy one any day!

Your personal opinions about Jan Schakowsky doesn't have much to do with the validity what's listed as job suggestions, does it? What do you think of the suggestions? Pretend Carl Rove suggested it. I know it will make you have to think. You can do it!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Your personal opinions about Jan Schakowsky doesn't have much to do with the validity what's listed as job suggestions, does it? What do you think of the suggestions? Pretend Carl Rove suggested it. I know it will make you have to think. You can do it!

Carl Rove isn't an idiot and realizes big cities come with congestion and especially in the case of chicago where the downtown area is small and unreachable from the east.

Actually I don't think Jan would be a part of it either unless there was something in it for hubby.

[dellinger63]

If you want new bridges, put up tolls and make the people using the bridge pay for it! Just don't let them (Government) steal the money and put it towards something else once the project has broken even, like the IL toll system.

If we're going to tax millionaires and billionaires, let's put it into a rainy day account for Social Security. We'll reduce the debt, save on interest payments EVERY year and let the people who paid in and rely on their SS checks to go to bed without worry!

[Cannon Shell]

This is a joke right?

Why can't morons like Schakowsky realize that people need real jobs not temporary busywork?

Do we really need to create "jobs" for 16 year olds?
What happens to the 400k construction jobs once the schools are fixed?
Who pays for the 250k maintenance men when the fed money runs out? Or are they temporary as well?
Where are 300k teachers needed? Who pays for them once the federal money runs out? Are those 300k also going to be teachers union members? Same with the Fireman and police officers? Who pays them once the fed money runs out? What about the hundreds of millions of dollars in benefits these people will accrue?
Who pays for that?
What is a part-time work study job and why is it a priority?
750k "community" jobs? Sounds like 749k jobs working for the Democratic political machine.

As usual the left produces a plan that will serve to raise taxes on everyone disguised as a tax on the evil rich. You don't have to be Karl Rove to see eventually these "jobs" will all become the burden of the regular tax paying middle class in the form of higher property, sales and school taxes. Of course the Dems will use this Act as a basis to argue for more class warfare while implementing more and more taxes to fund what really is a giant voter recruitment program.

[Antitrust32]

spend a quarter trillion dollars so everyone is out of work again in 3 months and kids get summer jobs? no thanks.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

spend a quarter trillion dollars so everyone is out of work again in 3 months and kids get summer jobs? no thanks.

Not remotely what this is, but thanks for playing

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This is a joke right?

Why can't morons like Schakowsky realize that people need real jobs not temporary busywork?

Do we really need to create "jobs" for 16 year olds?
What happens to the 400k construction jobs once the schools are fixed?
Who pays for the 250k maintenance men when the fed money runs out? Or are they temporary as well?
Where are 300k teachers needed? Who pays for them once the federal money runs out? Are those 300k also going to be teachers union members? Same with the Fireman and police officers? Who pays them once the fed money runs out? What about the hundreds of millions of dollars in benefits these people will accrue?
Who pays for that?
What is a part-time work study job and why is it a priority?
750k "community" jobs? Sounds like 749k jobs working for the Democratic political machine.

As usual the left produces a plan that will serve to raise taxes on everyone disguised as a tax on the evil rich. You don't have to be Karl Rove to see eventually these "jobs" will all become the burden of the regular tax paying middle class in the form of higher property, sales and school taxes. Of course the Dems will use this Act as a basis to argue for more class warfare while implementing more and more taxes to fund what really is a giant voter recruitment program.

Spot On!

[jms62]

Yet we STILL bring in H1B Guest Visa Workers and Lock them into the company that sponsered them so they have NO bargining power whatsover. Quasi Slave labor. We still hand out extensions to these visas very easily. Why? Are we stuck in a 1999 time-warp?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This is a joke right?

Why can't morons like Schakowsky realize that people need real jobs not temporary busywork?

Do we really need to create "jobs" for 16 year olds?
What happens to the 400k construction jobs once the schools are fixed?
Who pays for the 250k maintenance men when the fed money runs out? Or are they temporary as well?
Where are 300k teachers needed? Who pays for them once the federal money runs out? Are those 300k also going to be teachers union members? Same with the Fireman and police officers? Who pays them once the fed money runs out? What about the hundreds of millions of dollars in benefits these people will accrue?
Who pays for that?
What is a part-time work study job and why is it a priority?
750k "community" jobs? Sounds like 749k jobs working for the Democratic political machine.

As usual the left produces a plan that will serve to raise taxes on everyone disguised as a tax on the evil rich. You don't have to be Karl Rove to see eventually these "jobs" will all become the burden of the regular tax paying middle class in the form of higher property, sales and school taxes. Of course the Dems will use this Act as a basis to argue for more class warfare while implementing more and more taxes to fund what really is a giant voter recruitment program.

So since these are apparently all fake jobs, let's hear your plan for creating real ones. I've yet to hear one legitimate jobs initiative from any conservative, in congress or out.

Cry about socialism and big government all you want, this country badly needs a WPA-style jobs program to reanimate the middle class and increase consumer spending. Tax cuts haven't done it, and Schakowsky's right that 'incentivizing' and all the other terms that essentially translate to giving corporations more breaks that they never use to hire workers anyway are a load of bullshit.

There has been pretty much nothing but Republican economic policy implemented since the sackless one entered office and unemployment is still a huge problem. So either lay out a definitive, direct jobs initiative or get off the pot. Or is this current situation OK with you?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

So since these are apparently all fake jobs, let's hear your plan for creating real ones. I've yet to hear one legitimate jobs initiative from any conservative, in congress or out.

C'mon, be reasonable - they've given rich people - whoops, "Job Creators" - multiple increasing tax cuts both personal and corporate over the past 10 years, if we just do some more tax cuts, surely The J. Creator will begin to create magic jobs out of thin air!

(I know we've actually lost millions of jobs under that plan already, but hey, Reagan promised it would work, and I believe. Even though his finance guy Regan later said "trickle down" was full of crap and didn't work at all. Like we've seen. But you gotta "believe")

Yes, we do need a WPA style program. All this purposeful distraction nonsense about "OMG ZE DEFICIT!" was a complete waste of time. The Dems let themselves be lead by the nose down that silly path. Someone better step up, and if it's the Progressive Caucus, good for them. Let the Republicans shout down job creation.

This Republican House has already earned the reputation of the "do nothing" House, the worse, most ineffective/inactive House in years. All they do is name post offices. We won't be seeing anything useful from them. They refuse to even extend unemployment benefits. Better those Americans starve if they are too lazy to create a job out of thin air and get back to work on their own.

Yay, Republican economic plan! Destroy the country, lower our credit rating, keep Americans starving, out of work, in poverty, with no health care in a backwards economy. Yay!

The time has come for Congress to focus like a laser on the most pressing crisis facing our country – the jobs crisis. With extended unemployment benefits scheduled to expire at the end of this year, 13.9 million people remain out of work.

The average worker who is unemployed has been searching for a job for more than nine months and recent reports reveal that private sector employers largely refuse to hire those currently jobless.

An additional 8.4 million are working part time because they cannot find a full-time job.

In June 2007, 63 percent of adults were employed, now the percentage is 58.2 percent. Despite reports of a Congress immobilized and unable to address the jobs crisis– Congress can and must do something today.

“It begins with this simple idea: If we want to create jobs, then create jobs. I’m not talking about “incentivizing” companies in the hopes they’ll hire someone, or cutting taxes for the so-called job creators who have done nothing of the sort.

My plan creates actual new jobs,” said Rep. Schakowsky. “The worst deficit this country faces, isn’t the budget deficit. It’s the jobs deficit. We need to get our people and our economy moving again.”

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

So since these are apparently all fake jobs, let's hear your plan for creating real ones. I've yet to hear one legitimate jobs initiative from any conservative, in congress or out.

Cry about socialism and big government all you want, this country badly needs a WPA-style jobs program to reanimate the middle class and increase consumer spending. Tax cuts haven't done it, and Schakowsky's right that 'incentivizing' and all the other terms that essentially translate to giving corporations more breaks that they never use to hire workers anyway are a load of bullshit.

There has been pretty much nothing but Republican economic policy implemented since the sackless one entered office and unemployment is still a huge problem. So either lay out a definitive, direct jobs initiative or get off the pot. Or is this current situation OK with you?

Who pays for these jobs when the Fed govt money runs out? These aren't real jobs, these are federally funded temp jobs. Are the hundreds of thousands of student and youth jobs going to help the middle class? Are the maintenace jobs what middle America is looking for? Who pays for the billions of dollars in residual benefits these workers will acrue?

Your girls plan is a joke and supporting it without coming up with answers for the questions posed shows a lack of basic understanding of how the real world works and what the jobs issue entails.

[Cannon Shell]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...iness_newsreel

You want a plan? Help these companies stay afloat like we did Banks and auto companies. These are real jobs at risk but I guess this wouldnt be very popular among progressives.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...atestHeadlines

So the 120k "govt" jobs lost here don't matter when we can hire "community" workers?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

If you want new bridges, put up tolls and make the people using the bridge pay for it! Just don't let them (Government) steal the money and put it towards something else once the project has broken even, like the IL toll system.

If we're going to tax millionaires and billionaires, let's put it into a rainy day account for Social Security. We'll reduce the debt, save on interest payments EVERY year and let the people who paid in and rely on their SS checks to go to bed without worry!

I think these are ideas that have merit!