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[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's why i snickered to myself when riot mentioned in her post that her preventive care is free. nothing is 'free'. everything has a price, whether on the front end or hidden somewhere else.
now, preventive care might not have a copay, but it's paid for elsewhere.

You make a good point, the word "free" is misleading. Let's rephrase it correctly: there are no copays for preventive care. And that's a very good thing, as it reduces the cost of health care by addressing prevention. Yes. It's paid by the people who are paying the monthly premiums to the private insurance companies that are providing the services (the private companies are gaining thousands of new customers). Just like when you pay only a copay at your insurance, and your premiums pay for the rest of your care. Wouldn't it be nice if preventive care had no copay with your insurance? Screening blood tests, Pap smears, etc? That would certainly encourage better health care, wouldn't it? Certainly nothing to snicker about.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Riot

You make a good point, the word "free" is misleading. Let's rephrase it correctly: there are no copays for preventive care. And that's a very good thing, as it reduces the cost of health care by addressing prevention. Yes. It's paid by the people who are paying the monthly premiums to the private insurance companies that are providing the services (the private companies are gaining thousands of new customers). Just like when you pay only a copay at your insurance, and your premiums pay for the rest of your care. Wouldn't it be nice if preventive care had no copay with your insurance? Screening blood tests, Pap smears, etc? That would certainly encourage better health care, wouldn't it? Certainly nothing to snicker about.

Sweetie, are lobotomy smears free of copay?




You should check into this service.

Really,really.

A species that's a cross between a Unicorn and Humanoid will cover the expenses of preventative care. It's confidential. Leave Obama alone!!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

A species that's a cross between a Unicorn and Humanoid will cover the expenses of preventative care. It's confidential. Leave Obama alone!!!

yeah, it's all so cheap and easy-that's why it's been so hard to pass all these years. when it sounds too good to be true...well, everyone knows that adage.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by clyde

Sweetie, are lobotomy smears free of copay?




You should check into this service.

Really,really.

There aren't enough 's for this one.

[clyde]

My little squeeze box....how can I evah thank you?











Don't tell me.............as you know.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

You make a good point, the word "free" is misleading. Let's rephrase it correctly: there are no copays for preventive care. And that's a very good thing, as it reduces the cost of health care by addressing prevention. Yes. It's paid by the people who are paying the monthly premiums to the private insurance companies that are providing the services (the private companies are gaining thousands of new customers). Just like when you pay only a copay at your insurance, and your premiums pay for the rest of your care. Wouldn't it be nice if preventive care had no copay with your insurance? Screening blood tests, Pap smears, etc? That would certainly encourage better health care, wouldn't it? Certainly nothing to snicker about.

like i said, i snickered when you said free. as for preventive care, or coverage will encourage visits...i doubt it. many people dont go for care, don't go to doctors, they only go to the emergency room when they can't stand the pain.
there are people my husband works with who have all the coverage you could ask for-still have bad teeth, don't get physicals, etc. why? probably because they don't care about any of that. some do, most don't. having insurance won't change that-and there are going to be plenty of people who would rather pay the fine than will buy insurance, because a lot of people don't see the need-until they get sick that is. then they'll complain that they can't get taken care of, just like it's always been.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Riot

You make a good point, the word "free" is misleading. Let's rephrase it correctly: there are no copays for preventive care. And that's a very good thing, as it reduces the cost of health care by addressing prevention. Yes. It's paid by the people who are paying the monthly premiums to the private insurance companies that are providing the services (the private companies are gaining thousands of new customers). Just like when you pay only a copay at your insurance, and your premiums pay for the rest of your care. Wouldn't it be nice if preventive care had no copay with your insurance? Screening blood tests, Pap smears, etc? That would certainly encourage better health care, wouldn't it? Certainly nothing to snicker about.

I llllove it when you talk dirty!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You make a good point, the word "free" is misleading..

Here's a list of your contributors

here's a non-exhaustive list of ObamaCare's tax increases:

• Starting in 2013, the bill adds an additional 0.9% to the 2.9% Medicare tax for singles who earn more than $200,000 and couples making more than $250,000.

• For first time, the bill also applies Medicare's 2.9% payroll tax rate to investment income, including dividends, interest income and capital gains. Added to the 0.9% payroll surcharge, that means a 3.8-percentage point tax hike on "the rich." Oh, and these new taxes aren't indexed for inflation, so many middle-class families will soon be considered rich and pay the surcharge as their incomes rise past $250,000 due to tax-bracket creep. Remember how the Alternative Minimum Tax was supposed to apply only to a handful of millionaires?

Taxpayer cost over 10 years: $210 billion.

• Also starting in 2013 is a 2.3% excise tax on medical device manufacturers and importers. That's estimated to raise $20 billion.

• Already underway this year is the new annual fee on "branded" drug makers and importers, which will raise $27 billion.

• Another $15.2 billion will come from raising the floor on allowable medical deductions to 10% of adjusted gross income from 7.5%.

• Starting in 2018, the bill imposes a whopping 40% "excise tax" on high-cost health insurance plans. Though it only applies to two years in the 2010-2019 window of ObamaCare's original budget score, this tax would still raise $32 billion—and much more in future years.

• And don't forget a new annual fee on health insurance providers starting in 2014 and estimated to raise $60 billion. This tax, like many others on this list, will be passed along to consumers in higher health-care costs.

There are numerous other new taxes in the bill, all adding up to some $438 billion in new revenue over 10 years. But even that is understated because by 2019 the annual revenue increase is nearly $90 billion, or $900 billion in the 10 years after that.

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