The Perkins Trade: One of the Worst in NBA History

[clyde]

splat!!!!










Kidding....so true.

[horseofcourse]

You may be right, but I'm still not convinced Miami wins that series without the decapitation of Rondo's left arm. Even with a crippled point guard, Boston was not too far at all from winning both game's 4 and 5.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

You may be right, but I'm still not convinced Miami wins that series without the decapitation of Rondo's left arm. Even with a crippled point guard, Boston was not too far at all from winning both game's 4 and 5.

I agree. But then against Chicago? Chicago would have abused them in the paint like they did the last time they played.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I agree. But then against Chicago? Chicago would have abused them in the paint like they did the last time they played.

The Celtics likely wouldn't have beaten the Bulls with or without Perkins. Their defense is too good and their frontcourt is deeper and more athletic than any in the NBA.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Would appear that Boston's players have a tendency to get hurt. They play in a style that results in this. If it ain't Rondo, it would possibly be Perkins getting re-injured. You can't say that, because he's playing for OKC, then, he'd been fine to play for Boston. The Celtics have a different style.

2009: Garnett

2010: Perkins

2011: Rondo

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Would appear that Boston's players have a tendency to get hurt. They play in a style that results in this. If it ain't Rondo, it would possibly be Perkins getting re-injured. You can't say that, because he's playing for OKC, then, he'd been fine to play for Boston. The Celtics have a different style.

2009: Garnett

2010: Perkins

2011: Rondo

Meh. KG has had knee problems going back to his days in Minnesota and both Perkins and Rondo got hurt in freakish ways. They did have a lot of injuries this season in particular, but that's more due to their collective age.

[dalakhani]

The fact that the celtics were in serious contention for home court advantage and the trade hindered their ability to win a title is precisely why it's one of the worst trades in history.

Can you recall another deadline move where a conference leader trades one of it's starters, loses two seeds and goes 16-12 the rest of the way?

[ateamstupid]

When I think of a terrible trade, I think of something like the Herschel Walker/Steve Young/Dominique Wilkins deals. This was an ill-timed trade, but I'm pretty sure if Shaq stayed healthy and Rondo doesn't lose his arm, it doesn't look nearly as bad as it does now.

It's an easy scapegoat for a team that suffered through a bunch of injuries and frankly, gave away two games in the series against Miami (with the help of some typically Sternian officiating in Game 5).

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Meh. KG has had knee problems going back to his days in Minnesota and both Perkins and Rondo got hurt in freakish ways. They did have a lot of injuries this season in particular, but that's more due to their collective age.

They are a very physical team. You think it's been just bad luck? Perkins n' Rondo's injuries weren't age related. Perkins is just 26 (hard to believe.)

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

They are a very physical team. You think it's been just bad luck? Perkins n' Rondo's injuries weren't age related. Perkins is just 26 (hard to believe.)

I ask this seriously, did you watch either of the plays they got hurt on? Bynum went over the back on Perk (as he'd been doing all series) and Perk came down wrong on his knee with Bynum's weight added. Rondo was WWF leg sweeped by Wade and landed wrong on his elbow. It doesn't have anything to do with what team they're on, anybody who takes awkward falls like that is going to seriously injure themselves.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

You may be right, but I'm still not convinced Miami wins that series without the decapitation of Rondo's left arm. Even with a crippled point guard, Boston was not too far at all from winning both game's 4 and 5.

Bingo.

The bigger problem was that Ainge and Doc gambled on Shaq's health and lost. A 100% or thereabouts Shaq changes things in the lane against Miami, even without Perk. The timing of the trade also wasn't great, as it came at a time when the Celts were cruising and didn't give them much time to incorporate all the new pieces. Green is a good player, but you could tell he wasn't confident within the Celtic offense in the playoffs.

Bottom line is while the trade may have hindered their chances at a title this season, calling it 'one of the worst in NBA history' is hysterical IMO. Perk is a big, strong post defender who doesn't move well and couldn't play in the 4th quarter because he was (and is) a complete liability on offense. Perkins was very valuable to the C's when they played Orlando because of his ability to keep Howard out of the paint, but that's about it.