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Old 05-10-2011, 03:55 PM
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BTW did you rea Dr Riots post above..A busted pastern is IMPOSSIBLE to MISS
If you are going to cherry pick that line, you should read her next few sentences where she basically agree's with Chuck.
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:06 PM
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If you are going to cherry pick that line, you should read her next few sentences where she basically agree's with Chuck.

It is an absolute statement and speaks to fact that Rags did not have a busted pastern as Chuck seems to believe.. BECAUSE ITS AN IMPOSSIBLE THING TO MISS..
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:39 PM
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It is an absolute statement and speaks to fact that Rags did not have a busted pastern as Chuck seems to believe.. BECAUSE ITS AN IMPOSSIBLE THING TO MISS..
Geeshus ... Chuck's point is absolutely right, they missed whatever she had. I doubt it was a fracture line, because, yep, that's pretty impossible to miss, but as Chuck said, she obviously had something going on, which was completely missed, and resulted in a fractured pastern during the race.
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:49 PM
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Geeshus ... Chuck's point is absolutely right, they missed whatever she had. I doubt it was a fracture line, because, yep, that's pretty impossible to miss, but as Chuck said, she obviously had something going on, which was completely missed, and resulted in a fractured pastern during the race.

Dr. Riot are you milk or meat? In your prfessional opinion as an expert, is it likely that Rags to Riches had "a busted pastern" as suggested by Chuck, when she went thru a complete battery of testing?
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:14 PM
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Dr. Riot are you milk or meat? In your prfessional opinion as an expert, is it likely that Rags to Riches had "a busted pastern" as suggested by Chuck, when she went thru a complete battery of testing?
I'll answer for her since she already answered this exact question.

"No, a busted pastern is impossible to miss. They were looking hard for some instability or defect, yet couldn't find one. Yet that instability was real, it lead to the busted pastern."
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:23 PM
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I'll answer for her since she already answered this exact question.

"No, a busted pastern is impossible to miss. They were looking hard for some instability or defect, yet couldn't find one. Yet that instability was real, it lead to the busted pastern."
Gotcha just wanted to debunk Chuck's comical representation that a horse had a "Busted Pastern" and everyone missed it..
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Old 05-10-2011, 06:20 PM
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Gotcha just wanted to debunk Chuck's comical representation that a horse had a "Busted Pastern" and everyone missed it..
How do you debunk the truth?
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:31 PM
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I'll answer for her since she already answered this exact question.

"No, a busted pastern is impossible to miss. They were looking hard for some instability or defect, yet couldn't find one. Yet that instability was real, it lead to the busted pastern."
You see here is the issue..You bold something which is completely subjective.. Nobody knows for sure if Rags took a bad step and bustd something or if there was some issue that some ex rider thought he or she was feeling. What we know is that the filly did not have a busted pastern and the rest is all conjecture..CORRECT? There is fact and there is assumption assuming Rags had a busted pastern is pure BS
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:31 PM
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You see here is the issue..You bold something which is completely subjective.. Nobody knows for sure if Rags took a bad step and bustd something or if there was some issue that some ex rider thought he or she was feeling. What we know is that the filly did not have a busted pastern and the rest is all conjecture..CORRECT? There is fact and there is assumption assuming Rags had a busted pastern is pure BS
are you sure you are on your meds?
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Old 05-10-2011, 06:26 PM
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You see here is the issue..You bold something which is completely subjective.. Nobody knows for sure if Rags took a bad step and bustd something or if there was some issue that some ex rider thought he or she was feeling. What we know is that the filly did not have a busted pastern and the rest is all conjecture..CORRECT? There is fact and there is assumption assuming Rags had a busted pastern is pure BS
Unwittingly you make my point for me. That is that until something is painfully obvious it is mostly conjecture.

No what we know was that there was an unresolved issue and that ultimately there was a fractured pastern. Why anyone would think that this wasn't the issue all along and was simply not detected is beyond me. You don't have to be a genius to connect the dots.
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