Obama's budget speech

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

what about the wars? or are we all home? What about gay marriage? What about Gitmo? When do we all get Obamacare?

We have $4 dollar soon to be $5 dollar/gal gas, he wants to tax big corps but GAVE tax money to GM? Freddie, Fannie and foreign banks? Cash for clunkers? Unemployment still the same. And what does he have in his hand? Pure bluff!

Tax EVERYONE,!!!!! no exceptions or write-offs at 30% and see who cries!

we'll have $5/gal gas summer of 2012 just in time for the election. but this summer gas will cost less memorial day than it does on easter. see if i'm wrong.

and btw: "$5 dollar" is as redundant as reading your posts after watching fox.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

we'll have $5/gal gas summer of 2012 just in time for the election. but this summer gas will cost less memorial day than it does on easter. see if i'm wrong.

and btw: "$5 dollar" is as redundant as reading your posts after watching fox.

Maybe one day it won't be so redundant and we will start harvesting our own oil. To think of the green house gases that would be saved if oil was pumped, refined and transported via pipe here instead of shipping it over from half way around the world. Not to mention the benefit of no longer supporting our Muslim enemies. Works for both sides of the aisle so why the infinite delay?

[timmgirvan]

Drudge headline: Obama speech "most dishonest" in decades!

[jms62]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Drudge headline: Obama speech "most dishonest" in decades!

I see "PAPER: OBAMA SPEECH 'DISHONEST'..." which links to a freakin Op-Ed piece. Can you provide a link to the the "Most Dishonest in Decades!" or is that you embellishing a bit? Also another question I am really curious about. You mentioned previously that you collected SSI. I'm trying to understand how someone collecting an entitlement would side with the party that wants to eliminate entitlements. I can't wrap my arms around that.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

Also another question I am really curious about. You mentioned previously that you collected SSI. I'm trying to understand how someone collecting an entitlement would side with the party that wants to eliminate entitlements. I can't wrap my arms around that.

I believe it's called having a conscience.

As in you know you are taking someone else's money but do so for survival.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I believe it's called having a conscience.

As in you know you are taking someone else's money but do so for survival.

Is it just cut entitlements that I don't get kind of thing?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by jms62

I see "PAPER: OBAMA SPEECH 'DISHONEST'..." which links to a freakin Op-Ed piece. Can you provide a link to the the "Most Dishonest in Decades!" or is that you embellishing a bit? Also another question I am really curious about. You mentioned previously that you collected SSI. I'm trying to understand how someone collecting an entitlement would side with the party that wants to eliminate entitlements. I can't wrap my arms around that.

It was the lead headline on Drudge last night!

I don't believe that the GOP want to eliminate entitlements. I think this mostly cannon fodder for the press. Also, I dont think SSDI is an entitlement per se.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

It was the lead headline on Drudge last night!

I don't believe that the GOP want to eliminate entitlements. I think this mostly cannon fodder for the press. Also, I dont think SSDI is an entitlement per se.

not begrudging you anything but if ssdi isn't an entitlement, what do you define as one?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

not begrudging you anything but if ssdi isn't an entitlement, what do you define as one?

Firstly, you pay into this specific acct all through your working years, and I can't remember if it has a yearly cap or not. Possibly welfare and food stamps might be considered as stronger entitlements.

[Riot]

I'm tired of the term "entitlement", being used as if it's a bad word, as if it's something stolen. It's not. Thanks to the far right for that.

It used to mean that Americans and the least fortunate (children, disabled) were "entitled" to peace of mind in their old age or with their disability, were entitled to an old age with health care and devoid of poverty.

The "entitlement" of Social Security has dropped elder poverty from around 50% when it was initiated, to virtually nothing now.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I don't believe that the GOP want to eliminate entitlements.

Timm, c'mon - eliminating entitlements is a basic Republican tenant currently. The core of the Republican Party right now is to privatize and thus eliminate Medicare, Medicaid (that is contained in the current Ryan budget proposal) and they'd love to get rid of Social Security and replace it with private accounts (tried in the past, will be tried again in the future)

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

I see "PAPER: OBAMA SPEECH 'DISHONEST'..." which links to a freakin Op-Ed piece. Can you provide a link to the the "Most Dishonest in Decades!" or is that you embellishing a bit? Also another question I am really curious about. You mentioned previously that you collected SSI. I'm trying to understand how someone collecting an entitlement would side with the party that wants to eliminate entitlements. I can't wrap my arms around that.

Ditto. Puzzling.