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Old 03-29-2011, 08:55 AM
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If he's so worried about the bottom line and making a profit ... wouldn't Calder be a poor option?

Even dopey Gill eventually figured out that Pennsylvania is the right place to go when you don't have truly top horses.
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:26 AM
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for Frank I think it's all about the tan........
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Old 03-29-2011, 12:38 PM
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for Frank I think it's all about the tan........

For Frank, it's all about the man.....or men. Good riddance to that wrinkled liver spot and the rest of his lavender mafia. With this move, Illinois racing has made a quantumn leap forward from "totally horrendous " to "very irrelevant".
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Old 03-29-2011, 12:46 PM
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a quantumn leap forward from "totally horrendous " to "very irrelevant".
Isn't that what we're all striving for?
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Old 03-29-2011, 01:33 PM
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does this signal the end of betting at CRC, and horsemen making a living there?
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Old 03-29-2011, 03:29 PM
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Why would Arlington rake 15% off of fields shorter than 6?

Isn't the track responsible for offering purses/conditions that are attractive to owners/trainers to enter their horses?

Or, did Arlington institute this rule because they feel Calabrese was hindering field sizes?
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Old 03-29-2011, 03:34 PM
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Why would Arlington rake 15% off of fields shorter than 6?

Isn't the track responsible for offering purses/conditions that are attractive to owners/trainers to enter their horses?

Or, did Arlington institute this rule because they feel Calabrese was hindering field sizes?
They are trying something to see if it works, and reviewing it in 45 days, and then they are probably just gonna cut purses. My assumption
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Old 03-29-2011, 03:35 PM
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does this signal the end of betting at CRC, and horsemen making a living there?
No and no. You will become very aware when they are gonna win and when they aren't
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thanks for the encouragement, any hints?
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:38 AM
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If he's so worried about the bottom line and making a profit ... wouldn't Calder be a poor option?

Even dopey Gill eventually figured out that Pennsylvania is the right place to go when you don't have truly top horses.
Making a profit is far from the truth. Word is that he has taken the new rule personally because he would always win those 5-6 horse fields.

Arlington will be better for it. Although I'm guessing that Jamie Ness might swoop in now since he already has a stable at Hawthorne, but has never come to Arlington.
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Frank Kirby, I'm sure, is smiling
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He shouldn't.
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He shouldn't.
when you're married to a billionaire I guess you should always be smiling
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:24 AM
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Making a profit is far from the truth. Word is that he has taken the new rule personally because he would always win those 5-6 horse fields.

Arlington will be better for it. Although I'm guessing that Jamie Ness might swoop in now since he already has a stable at Hawthorne, but has never come to Arlington.
Why doesn't he ship to NY or Parx if he is so worried about making a profit? His better stock could race at Belmont and the other stuff could try Parx and Penn? Doesn't Mr. C's product ship well?
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Old 03-29-2011, 11:24 AM
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Why doesn't he ship to NY or Parx if he is so worried about making a profit? His better stock could race at Belmont and the other stuff could try Parx and Penn? Doesn't Mr. C's product ship well?
Stalls are impossible at Parx, although I would assume that a guy that runs like him would be welcomed with open arms, they would probably build a barn for him with the way the fields have been lately.

I could only imagine the Juan Carlos Guerrero/Nick Canani showdown, it could be priceless.
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