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Old 03-01-2011, 02:48 AM
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I really don't have a clue about what the hell Walker is doing any more. He's been in office weeks, but he's outright lied to his citizens, and broken more laws in the past week than an Illinois governor. It's not going well. Even a few Republican Senators are now threatening not to vote yes for Walker's union-busting bill. So I will try to vaguely insult you.
FTFY, buddy
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Old 03-01-2011, 03:17 AM
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Survey shows Walker and eight Republican State Senators vulnerable to recall
An estimated 1.1 million Wisconsin voters would sign a recall petition if asked


"Walker will not be subject to a recall until he has served one year in office. After he has served one year, a recall would require the signatures of approximately 532,970 voters (25% of the total 2010 gubernatorial vote). Based on the results of this most recent survey and microtargeting models, it is estimated that more than 1.1 million voters statewide would be willing to sign a recall petition if asked".
http://www.strategictelemetry.com/do...vey_022811.pdf
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:14 AM
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Outside of Milwaukee and Madison WI news

Rep. Evan Wynn, who represents the 43rd Assembly District, said that, despite the media attention given to pro-union protesters, supporters of the bill outnumber opponents.

“The protesters have been loud, but I believe they’re a vocal minority,” Wynn said. “I see where Tim Cullen said the state is split 50/50, but I feel it’s 60/40 in favor of the bill. Mr. Cullen and the other Senate Democrats were in hiding, while the rest of us have been here working and communicating with our constituents.

“This thing is bigger than the budget or collective bargaining,” he added. “It’s about what system of government we want, and not the minority dictating things to the majority. It’s about making this state great.”

Longtime state Rep. Steve Nass, R-Whitewater, said no amount of intimidation from protesters would keep him from voting for the bill.


http://walworthcountytoday.com/news/...lators-united/
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Rep. Evan Wynn, who represents the 43rd Assembly District, said that, despite the media attention given to pro-union protesters, supporters of the bill outnumber opponents.
Strange statement. I wonder what alternate reality this guy is living in? That's not objectively true according to the signs of the 100,000 that were there this weekend, or the 70,000 last weekend (when a few thousand counter protesters showed up, bussed in by the Koch brothers "Tea Party" group), nor the thousands within the capital building this week.

Nor according to current public opinion polls that say 61% of Wisconsin citizens support the right to collectively bargain and disagree with Walker trying to take that away.

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“The protesters have been loud, but I believe they’re a vocal minority,” Wynn said.
Oh! I see! He's going with "belief". Not "facts" Who knows, maybe his individual district is telling him differently than the Wisconsin polls are showing.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:29 PM
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There is a Wisconsin law that says the Wisconsin capital must be open to free, unrestricted access by the public.

Governor Walker, over the last two days, has tried to circumvent that law, ordering access restricted since late Sunday night (limiting who can come in, denying access to most of the public)

A lawsuit was immediately filed late Sunday evening, with judge contact first thing Monday morning for a hearing to get a temporary restraining order on Walker, on behalf of the owners of the building, the public.

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Breaking Reuters: A Dane County circuit court judge ordered Wisconsin authorities on Tuesday to open the Capitol Building in Madison to public access during business hours.

It was not immediately clear whether the temporary restraining order granted by Judge Daniel Moeser would result in a change in the way people have been granted access to the building over the past two days.

Protesters have held demonstrations for two weeks at the Capitol building against Republican Governor Scott Walker's proposal to curb the powers of public sector unions and access was tightened on Monday and Tuesday.

A representative of the Walker administration was not immediately available to comment.
Walker does have a problem: he is supposed to broadcast his budget speech Tuesday, and the protesters are now going to provide background to that, as he couldn't eliminate them and make them go away.

Walker is still trying to screw everyone and anyone associated with the other party:

Holding paychecks for Democratic senators hostage (eliminated direct deposit, passed a resolution they have to come to the floor of the Senate to pick up their paycheck)

Making Democratic Senators current state employees (who are still working in the capital, serving the public) have their work hours signed off on by someone else, not permitted to be signed off by their boss.

Forbidding Democratic Senator current state employees from using the copy machines. Seriously. Walker has forbidden Senate Dem office employees from using their copy machines. If these public employees need copies, they now have to leave their office, go to a main office, get approval, then be allowed to use the copier.
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Nor according to current public opinion polls that say 61% of Wisconsin citizens support the right to collectively bargain and disagree with Walker trying to take that away.
Try again 48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...de_with_unions
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Try again 48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...de_with_unions
I believe that article is a national poll not Wisconsin residents. Riots poll numbers state Wisconsin residents.
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I believe that article is a national poll not Wisconsin residents. Riots poll numbers state Wisconsin residents.
Riot put no link up to her poll though I suspect it's the USA Today national survey.
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I believe that article is a national poll not Wisconsin residents. Riots poll numbers state Wisconsin residents.
No, I was wrong- the one I quoted was all Americans. I saw a Wisconsin-only poll, it was pro-union, but trying to find it ...

Edit: here are three Wisconsin-citizen only polls that also show the citizens don't support Walker

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The poll of 500 likely voters, Wisconsin residents only, which was conducted on Monday, Feb.21:
According to the poll, 56 percent say Wisconsin state employees and public employee unions should have collective bargaining powers. Thirty-two percent disagree, and 12 percent of those polled are unsure.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/pol...dget-standoff/
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2400 Wisconsin residents asked automated poll 2/17/11 http://weaskamerica.com/2011/02/18/w...-in-wisconsin/
Do you approve of Gov Walkers plan to limit the pay of government workers and teachers, increase their share of the cost of benefits, and strip some public-employ unions of much of their power.
We’d like to know if APPROVE or DISAPPROVE of Gov. Walker’s plan.
Approve 43.05%
Disapprove 51.90%
Not sure 5.05%
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http://www.wispolitics.com/1006/BSW_..._17___2011.pdf
602 Wisconsin voters polled
Remove collective bargaining rights: 33.7% agree, 35.2% oppose
Support for Walker less than opposition, etc (see poll)
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:04 PM
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Rasmussen is one poll from a week ago. Here's three more current that disagree:

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New Polls Bring More Bad News for Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker
By Robert Schlesinger
Posted: March 1, 2011

A trio of new surveys bring more bad news for embattled Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker. All three show that the public is taking a dim view of union-busting efforts, and all three have results that more or less dovetail with each other.

A poll of Wisconsin voters by the Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling, for example, has 46 percent of voters approving of Walker overall, with 52 percent disapproving. On the specific issue that has dominated the state, 57 percent of voters believe that public workers should have collective bargaining rights, whereas 37 percent believe that they should not.

That 57-37 margin lines up pretty well with the results of a new New York Times/CBS News survey of adults nationwide which found that 60 percent oppose taking away some collective bargaining rights from public unions (38 percent strongly oppose, 22 percent somewhat oppose) while only 33 favor the idea (18 percent strongly, 15 percent somewhat). When the Times and CBS asked adults whether they would favor cutting pay or benefits for public employees in order to balance the budget, similar numbers oppose the idea (37 percent favor, 56 percent against).

Similarly a new Pew Research Center poll of adults nationwide found a clear plurality siding with the public employee unions (42 percent) over Governor Walker (31 percent), with 18 percent saying they didn’t know which side they were on.
The PPP poll, which just focused on a presumably better informed selection of Wisconsin voters gave majorities to Walker’s opponents—voters side with public unions 51-47 over the governor and they side with state Senate Democrats (the ones who have decamped out of state) by virtually the same margin, 52-47. that differ

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...v-scott-walker
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