Egypt

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The powers that be behind the Muslim Brotherhood CAN NOT be allowed to take over Egypt's military, ranked 10th largest in the world, and especially their air-force, including 200+ F-16's.

Whether we get involved overtly or covertly we will need to get involved. For the time being providing inferior replacement parts would be an idea I'll throw out there.

There is little doubt in my mind that the US will ensure that someone who will "play ball" will find his way into office in Egypt. That country is much too vital in regards to regional stability. The US has been pretty good at that over time.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

There is little doubt in my mind that the US will ensure that someone who will "play ball" will find his way into office in Egypt. That country is much too vital in regards to regional stability. The US has been pretty good at that over time.

How'd that U.S. ability work out with Iran?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

How'd that U.S. ability work out with Iran?

we got 'Cartered'

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

How'd that U.S. ability work out with Iran?

Hey, I didn't say that it was the "best" or "right" course of action. I don't think anyone in the state dept would claim that this strategy is a lasting solution. At the same time, over history, the US has found a viable puppet to stand in and play "leader" in destabilized third world countries at least for a little while.

You bring up the Shah and he played ball too well for his own good. He wasn't a US find but we certainly endorsed him for the 30 some odd years he was in power.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Hey, I didn't say that it was the "best" or "right" course of action. I don't think anyone in the state dept would claim that this strategy is a lasting solution. At the same time, over history, the US has found a viable puppet to stand in and play "leader" in destabilized third world countries at least for a little while.

You bring up the Shah and he played ball too well for his own good. He wasn't a US find but we certainly endorsed him for the 30 some odd years he was in power.

History has a way of repeating itself. I see this recent Egypt scenario strikingly similar to what happened in Iran in 1979 - the beginning of all our problems with terrorists.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

can we send obama there to live till this is sorted out?

Freedom Allah!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Freedom Allah!

In a secular way.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

History has a way of repeating itself. I see this recent Egypt scenario strikingly similar to what happened in Iran in 1979 - the beginning of all our problems with terrorists.

I think that started after Muhommad was invented.

that or after Jews were given part of the middle east.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

History has a way of repeating itself. I see this recent Egypt scenario strikingly similar to what happened in Iran in 1979 - the beginning of all our problems with terrorists.

But I think Egypt is alot more resistant to terrorism and Islamic extremism. The Muslim and small Christian communities share religious tolerance very well there, and the MB there (only in Egypt) is intolerant of violence. Granted, a strong dictatorship doesn't allow terrorism, so a vacuum is what would be feared. Certainly that is a worry. Right now, there are not heavy extremist elements in the country. The army is conscription and beloved and trusted by the people (better be, because they've essentially had a coup)

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Riot

But I think Egypt is alot more resistant to terrorism and Islamic extremism. The Muslim and small Christian communities share religious tolerance very well there, and the MB there (only in Egypt) is intolerant of violence. Granted, a strong dictatorship doesn't allow terrorism, so a vacuum is what would be feared. Certainly that is a worry. Right now, there are not heavy extremist elements in the country. The army is conscription and beloved and trusted by the people (better be, because they've essentially had a coup)

We can only hope that it does not progress to something that we have to worry about. There's enough on our plate already.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

We can only hope that it does not progress to something that we have to worry about. There's enough on our plate already.

Ditto. Fingers crossed in a big way.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

But I think Egypt is alot more resistant to terrorism and Islamic extremism. The Muslim and small Christian communities share religious tolerance very well there, and the MB there (only in Egypt) is intolerant of violence.)

Tell me how the MB as you call it I prefer MUSLIM brotherhood is anyway secular? And I capitalized MUSLIM because I thought that meant a belief in Islam? Guess we shall go real deep and I thought Islam is a belief in Muhammad. Are secular egyptians who are muslims and thus part of the MB as you call it fans of Muhammad Ali?

[Riot]

Dell goes off on some weird tangent caused by his inability to understand what other people write. Again.

Tell me how the MB as you call it I prefer MUSLIM brotherhood is anyway secular? And I capitalized MUSLIM because I thought that meant a belief in Islam?

????? I never said it was secular.

Guess we shall go real deep and I thought Islam is a belief in Muhammad. Are secular egyptians who are muslims and thus part of the MB as you call it fans of Muhammad Ali?

Just crazy, aren't you?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

But I think Egypt is alot more resistant to terrorism and Islamic extremism. The Muslim and small Christian communities share religious tolerance very well there, and the MB there (only in Egypt) is intolerant of violence. Granted, a strong dictatorship doesn't allow terrorism, so a vacuum is what would be feared. Certainly that is a worry. Right now, there are not heavy extremist elements in the country. The army is conscription and beloved and trusted by the people (better be, because they've essentially had a coup)

And Obama is praising the protesters TODAY!!!! Way to go! The ignorance of hope and change strikes again?

CBS News correspondent Lara Logan was recovering in a U.S. hospital Tuesday from a sexual attack and beating she suffered while reporting on the tumultuous events in Cairo.

Logan was in the city’s Tahrir Square on Friday after Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak stepped down when she, her team and their security “were surrounded by a dangerous element amidst the celebration,” CBS said in a statement Tuesday. The network described a mob of more than 200 people “whipped into a frenzy.” Separated from her crew in the crush of the violent pack, she suffered what CBS called “a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating.” She was saved by a group of women and an estimated 20 Egyptian soldiers, the network said. AP

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

And Obama is praising the protesters TODAY!!!! Way to go! The ignorance of hope and change strikes again?

CBS News correspondent Lara Logan was recovering in a U.S. hospital Tuesday from a sexual attack and beating she suffered while reporting on the tumultuous events in Cairo.

Logan was in the city’s Tahrir Square on Friday after Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak stepped down when she, her team and their security “were surrounded by a dangerous element amidst the celebration,” CBS said in a statement Tuesday. The network described a mob of more than 200 people “whipped into a frenzy.” Separated from her crew in the crush of the violent pack, she suffered what CBS called “a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating.” She was saved by a group of women and an estimated 20 Egyptian soldiers, the network said. AP

Wont suprise me if Obama decides to give Egypt more aid. Very good possibility if the Muslim Brotherhood takes over.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

History has a way of repeating itself. I see this recent Egypt scenario strikingly similar to what happened in Iran in 1979 - the beginning of all our problems with terrorists.

I am in agreement with you. Didn't the US give all that aid to Iran before they took our people hostage?