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[cakes44]

Where is Eskendereya?

[slotdirt]

He's like 50th. I'm serious.

[Travis Stone]

These rankings are brand new... the whole initiative to have people vote started literally yesterday. So until the public starts voting, the rankings will be silly.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

These rankings are brand new... the whole initiative to have people vote started literally yesterday. So until the public starts voting, the rankings will be silly.

they will always be silly!! especially AFTER the public starts voting!!

[NTamm1215]

Hey, even so called experts have a hard time with rankings. Hasn't anyone seen the first round of the Watchmaker Watch?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Hey, even so called experts have a hard time with rankings. Hasn't anyone seen the first round of the Watchmaker Watch?

The problem with this poll is that at least experts know about and have heard about the majority of horses listed. You would think that many of the other people voting probably haven't seen or even heard of at the least %20 of the field. Hence it becomes a popularity contest for many of the people voting.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The problem with this poll is that at least experts know about and have heard about the majority of horses listed. You would think that many of the other people voting probably haven't seen or even heard of at the least %20 of the field. Hence it becomes a popularity contest for many of the people voting.

I agree with this.
I don't think there's anything wrong in holding polls for fans to vote in if it's realistically titled. Alot of people like to do that kind of thing, look at all the polls we have here.
BUT, maybe it should be retitled Top 250 Most Popular Thoroughbreds of All-Time voted on by the fans...Who do you love?
It would be more realistic that way.

[Thunder Gulch]

Where's Super Saver and Mine That Bird?

[Thunder Gulch]

Just missing the top 100 Damascus and Count Fleet....I could go on forever.

[slotdirt]

Travis, I don't care how long people have been "ranking" these horses, the fact that Barbaro and Zenyatta are working their way towards the top 10 and Count Fleet is mired in the 80's, not to mention I still can't find Twilight Tear anywhere, says pretty much all I need to know about the average idiot who votes on online polls.

[randallscott35]

Opinions are like a.ssholes....

[Dahoss]

The idea is a good one....but this poll is a great example of why fans should never be allowed to vote on anything relating to horse racing.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

The idea is a good one....but this poll is a great example of why fans should never be allowed to vote on anything relating to horse racing.

When the HOTY was coming-up... we had donks voting Blame a "1" and then two seconds later making Zenyatta a "10" ... very annoying.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

The idea is a good one....but this poll is a great example of why fans should never be allowed to vote on anything relating to horse racing.

Like Eclipse awards? The writers do such a good job already.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Travis, I don't care how long people have been "ranking" these horses, the fact that Barbaro and Zenyatta are working their way towards the top 10 and Count Fleet is mired in the 80's, not to mention I still can't find Twilight Tear anywhere, says pretty much all I need to know about the average idiot who votes on online polls.

Feel free to log on and vote... it's a process. The rankings are sent through a statistical formula to help regulate those who received loads of votes versus those who didn't... much like the Top 250 on IMDB. So since it's early in the voting (very early, some horses don't even have a vote), it'll take a while to get everything in somewhat logical order.

We're not finding horses for the Hall of Fame with this list, we created something new and hopefully ultimately pretty cool for horse racing fans to enjoy the sport more now and into the future.

[Sightseek]

I love the comment that Smarty's stud fee will go way up if Backtalk wins the Derby.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Feel free to log on and vote... it's a process. The rankings are sent through a statistical formula to help regulate those who received loads of votes versus those who didn't... much like the Top 250 on IMDB. So since it's early in the voting (very early, some horses don't even have a vote), it'll take a while to get everything in somewhat logical order.

We're not finding horses for the Hall of Fame with this list, we created something new and hopefully ultimately pretty cool for horse racing fans to enjoy the sport more now and into the future.

In the case of an IMDB Top 250 - people have a lot better access to viewing movies than they do access to the needed information and material to make any kind of educated guess on the rating of horses from different generations.

It's much easier for a fan of movies to critique Lawrence of Arabia than it is for a fan of racing to critique Tom Fool.

It is a neat concept. I realize it's probably too much work to do a page write-up on the thousand or so most worthy horses - however, why not use that box on the right to put in your sites own brief comment? Why rely on dopey readers to put down moronic garbage?

If I ever stumble across this IMDB Top 250 thing you talk about - I'd rate 'I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell' and 'Trailor Park Boys' the two greatest movies of all-time ... because, in my opinion, they are.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Travis, I don't care how long people have been "ranking" these horses, the fact that Barbaro and Zenyatta are working their way towards the top 10 and Count Fleet is mired in the 80's, not to mention I still can't find Twilight Tear anywhere, says pretty much all I need to know about the average idiot who votes on online polls.

She's 61.

Coaltown is 256, Ouija Board is 208, Hail to Reason at 112. Sunline is 272 and Makybe Diva isn't there at all.

I couldn't find Pride but I punched in Pepper's Pride just to see...

#160.

(There's a search thing and these are a few of the names I was curious about as far as "rankings").

I understand what both Travis and FG Fan are saying.

You mention the average idiot who spends times with online polls and yeah I would think it's the newer fans who have voted thus far but really... is it such a tragedy?

The newer fans... how are they supposed to learn about the past if they're not exposed to thing like names, replays, etc?

It's pretty silly, it's not like I don't agree, but then in a way it's like maybe we don't need to be so smug.

Some of these people are the future players or some of them might be the future players.

You're not born knowing all these names, right?

If they're spending a little part of their day doing stuff like voting for Zenyatta then at least they're showing a continued interest.

Sorry - just trying to find or see the positive side of this.

I remember having to ask what pp's were, what distaff meant and why there were so many different races at the Breeders Cup.

I will never forget how no one laughed at me. Not ever.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

She's 61.

Now she's 52... these things won't settle down and will update by the minute until we have lots of votes at which point we should hopefully be somewhat closer to reality and it'll be harder for horses to make sudden moves.