A Sad Day For Racing

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

People wanted to see her campaigned more aggressively this year.


As they did for Rachel Alexandra. Her connections were thought to have ducked the Zenyatta match up this year. For whatever their possibly good reasons.


This country has an electoral college for final validation of Presidential elections.



Blame was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I was wondering who would be the first to bring up Rachel. Congrats. Has absolutely nothing to do with HOY this year, or the discussion at hand, but hey, if that is all you have, go for it.

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

Blame paid about a nearly full $10 in his Stephen Foster win this year.

Pretty sure Secretariat, Seattle Slew.....or Zenyatta rarely returned same.


Then Blame won a race at Aqueduct, and another race in New York.


Then lost a race in New York.

Then, barely triumphed over the undefeated Zenyatta in The Classic.


This voting really isn't that complicated, folks.

Wow. You really might have outdone yourself here. Blame won at Aqueduct? In what dream? But even if he had, does that mean something bad?

I won't waste my time going over Zenyatta's race record this year, who she beat, who they avoided, etc. It's been done too many times before. But there is someone with a bias here. Maybe stick to redboards in the future? Those are always a better read than this.

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Wow. You really might have outdone yourself here. Blame won at Aqueduct? In what dream? But even if he had, does that mean something bad?

I've been to probably 30+ race tracks across America and Canada. I've never been to Aqueduct. It's not one I've ever wanted to check off my list.

Seriously, if there is something at Aqueduct I should see, let me know. I'll be sure to go. I'm a sucker for nostalgia and history, as any Hialeah fan in 2011 of course would be. I've made Belmont for several "Belmont Stakes," the first being Seattle Slew's win.

Okay, I'll admit in misreading something last night about Blame and Aqueduct.

I just don't see or buy that Garrett Gomez aboard Blame for a 4-1 record in his 2010 races was all that special.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

I've been to probably 30+ race tracks across America and Canada. I've never been to Aqueduct. It's not one I've ever wanted to check off my list.

Seriously, if there is something at Aqueduct I should see, let me know. I'll be sure to go. I'm a sucker for nostalgia and history, as any Hialeah fan in 2011 of course would be. I've made Belmont for several "Belmont Stakes," the first being Seattle Slew's win.

Okay, I'll admit in misreading something last night about Blame and Aqueduct.

I just don't see or buy that Garrett Gomez aboard Blame for a 4-1 record in his 2010 races was all that special.

Is this internet for "I was worng"?

I guess Mike Smith aboard Zenyatta for a 5-1 record was special. Maybe I need to be "special" to appreciate these things.

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Is this internet for "I was worng"?

I guess Mike Smith aboard Zenyatta for a 5-1 record was special. Maybe I need to be "special" to appreciate these things.

Yawn.

You seized and comprehended the thought.


Congrats.

[brianwspencer]

Can we go back now and retroactively make Smarty Jones and Barbaro both Horse of the Year, too?

Based on this year's results, they should've been RESOUNDING winners, since being popular and having the most segments on the nooz is what makes horse of the year these days -- not actually being the horse that accomplishes the most on the racetrack.

It's just absurd. The whole "well, there are no rules, so it's all subjective and it can mean whatever you want it to mean" thing lots of voters have been saying is just a cop-out. Everyone knows what the generally accepted spirit of the rule is, which is to say, put or shut up on the track if you want to win the award. Until this year.

There's a good damn reason Barbaro and Smarty Jones didn't win the award, for two recent comparisons, because despite all of their wonderful human-interest stories, and all of the attention they brought to the game, they got outperformed on the track, where it matters.

If only they had been better dancers. Sure things then.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

Yawn.

You seized and comprehended the thought.


Congrats.

Stick to redboards. No one cares how many tracks you have been to.

[letswastemoney]

The radical Zenyatta fanbase is a lot crazier than the most radical Smarty Jones and Barbaro fans. If only these 3 were on the ballot, Zenyatta would win in a landslide.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

The radical Zenyatta fanbase is a lot crazier than the most radical Smarty Jones and Barbaro fans. If only these 3 were on the ballot, Zenyatta would win in a landslide.

Smarty brought out the best in people!!!!

People around Philly really enjoyed the media attention on Smarty and had Smarty Parties!! Now those are the type of "fans" I like...

People willing to down lots of alcohol, and make side bets on the Belmont Stakes are more fun than Pink sign holders!

But then again Philly is so much better than Cali so its expected that we have better "fans".

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Stick to redboards. No one cares how many tracks you have been to.

Redboards?

Hey, I called a $5 win on a $70 bet at the inspiration of My Miss Storm Cat the other day here.

Not one of my best wagers.

I'd love to share my damn winning bets here but I just don't frickin' handicap and decide my final wagers until getting the look, feel and vibes from the paddock to the gate.



I know you don't care how many tracks I've been to "DaHoss." Your decision.

I've seen lots of horse racing in my 50+ years of gambling. And wagered often. Often.

And now have two kids through college, one going to graduate in April, and one now a freshman. And they all have/will graduated with no debt.

I have had two wives who have watched and experienced me gambling that have let me fire at will. My first wife and my second wife are friends, and of all they talk about me, gambling is NEVER a negative.

I enjoy my gambling, and I am good enough at it to have had fun and gained some nice things from it....for years and years.

Sorry you are hung up on this "redboarding" thing. Like others here.

I don't understand that "redboarding" disrespect at all. If someone drops in with short time and very limited posts I maybe get the sentiment.


I'm very happy that Zenyatta's connections won their prize of Horse of The The Year.


I never bet a dime on her. No souvenir tickets, or nothing.


(I do have a Mike Smith autographed photo)

[Dahoss]

Who cares?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

(I do have a Mike Smith autographed photo)

But do you have a photo of yourself with Mike Smith like I do?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Is this internet for "I was worng"?

I guess Mike Smith aboard Zenyatta for a 5-1 record was special. Maybe I need to be "special" to appreciate these things.

hey now.. all 5 of Zenyatta's victories in 2010 were against the best possible competition in American Racing!