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Old 01-03-2011, 07:06 PM
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Neil Howard will visit ATR tomorrow to talk about him... Also eager to ask about AIN'T NO TELLIN', a Sam-Son Dynaformer homebred filly he debuts Thursday who is a half sister of memorable MGSW French Beret.
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Old 01-03-2011, 11:18 PM
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Neil Howard will visit ATR tomorrow to talk about him... Also eager to ask about AIN'T NO TELLIN', a Sam-Son Dynaformer homebred filly he debuts Thursday who is a half sister of memorable MGSW French Beret.
Neil has Grasshopper entered in the 8th on Saturday.
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Old 01-04-2011, 01:28 PM
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Neil Howard will visit ATR tomorrow to talk about him... Also eager to ask about AIN'T NO TELLIN', a Sam-Son Dynaformer homebred filly he debuts Thursday who is a half sister of memorable MGSW French Beret.
Missed it what did Howard have to say?
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Old 01-04-2011, 02:14 PM
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Missed it what did Howard have to say?
Tomorrow.. Or Thursday. He was tied up until 10:30 and at that point we were booked solid. A bit booked out tomorrow too, so I'm thinking Thursday...

If you missed today, it featured Tony Dutrow, Seth Merrow, Dr. Allday, Andy Serling, Richard Migliore.
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:11 PM
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Who does Dr. Allday vet for now? How many derby winners in a row did he have under his care?
Principally Todd Pletcher, Dale Romans & Tony Dutrow. Plus some other old friends like Neil Drysdale and Bill Cesare.

One Derby winner in a row I guess with Super Saver. Think the last before that was FuPeg, though he might have done some work with Monarchos but I'm not positive.
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Currently 100-1 at Wynn.
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I'd like to take him at 100-1 to not be in the race.
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I'd like to take him at 100-1 to not be in the race.
Even Howard doubts his distance ability and with that breeding, he will be a stretch to get 9 furlongs.
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Is he in favor of Vet names and stats being listed in the form?
We've broached that topic, of which Thoro-Graph's Jerry Brown is a huge proponent, and I don't think Allday has any objection to it. But that concept is a quagmire in that there's generally more than one vet or equine service practitioner working on a given horse at any time.
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We've broached that topic, of which Thoro-Graph's Jerry Brown is a huge proponent, and I don't think Allday has any objection to it. But that concept is a quagmire in that there's generally more than one vet or equine service practitioner working on a given horse at any time.
Esp. at the lower levels.

Also, what do you do about the horses shipping in from off track? Honor system?

It would be a huge expense to police. The cheaters would just find a way around it. They could just use the listed vet for normal day to day activities and when they want to pop one, have Dr. Feelgood make a quick visit. If they're caught, they will have to give their horses to their assistants for 30 days.
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Old 01-06-2011, 04:37 AM
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If an organization wants to make a policy work.... they make it work. I am not suggesting that this one notion solves a problem. However, sequenced with a series of changes it can tighten the noose.
I agree, but this issue is a horseplayer driven issue. The organizations, that could do anything about this specific issue, have no incentive to do anything about it.

What organization is going to step forward and invest the amount of money needed to kick the series of changes in gear? Would horseplayers step up to the plate and pay more for past performance information if the vets were listed, to help finance the needed effort? I doubt it.
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