This is awful

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The Marlins won twice and the Heat are supposed to win 7 or 8 championships according to LeBron. That's not enough?

That's a stupid argument anyway. Cleveland hasn't won anything in forever and they've still sold out Browns and Cavs games for years now.

It's very difficult to support a team that has won twice when they are dismantling the team before the players cleaned out their locker. It was a recipe to build championships, but not a recipe to garner a long term fan base. I'll also give the Marlins fans a pass, for sitting a stadium built for football (seats not angled towards home plate), in weather more suited for a Red-Eyed Tree Frog and watching a team that is perpetually rebuilding (save two seasons).

Dolphins fans have been bandwagoners since the '70's, as soon as it looks like they are not making the playoffs, they disappear in droves. 'Canes Football fans? They have always struggled to sell out. If they aren't playing UF, FSU or a non confernence national power, empty seats abound.

It's a Florida thing. Not Scuds' theory of, they have other things to do. It is because a huge majority of the people living in Florida, aren't from Florida (I was in a meeting at work this week and of the 12 people around the table, not one was native Floridian). These people all have allegiences to the teams they grew up rooting for in whatever city they are from. Because of this dynamic, all Florida teams have struggled to build a fanbase beyond their rabid core fans. They are easy to follow when they are winning, but if they are losing, half of Miaimi-Dade and Broward County are rooting for the Yankees, Mets, Giants and Jets and could care less if the Marlins or Dolphins exist.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

It's a Florida thing. Not Scuds' theory of, they have other things to do. It is because a huge majority of the people living in Florida, aren't from Florida (I was in a meeting at work this week and of the 12 people around the table, not one was native Floridian). These people all have allegiences to the teams they grew up rooting for in whatever city they are from.

Well, L.A. has the same situation, but we have core Angel fans, Dodger Fans, Lakers Fans etc. You have core fans, too, but you're a 3rd as big as us. So, the problem is more apparent. Some of this has to do with the size of the market. If you were three or four times bigger, nobody would notice it nearly as much. I think Atlanta, n' Miami are two markets that people tend to think are much bigger than they actually are.


I have to say, though, that a city that allows large numbers of fans of another team into their house is pathetic. There is no excuse for that crap. I don't care what you got to do, you need to discourage these people. It is the ultimate disrespect for your players to have their home field advantage eroded. Maybe not physical damage, but certainly they should have food stains on them when they leave. Even if your team sucks so bad that you don't want to watch, you still need to keep your house from being taken over by this scum of the world. There's no excuse for a city to allow this. I am serious about that. There is not to be allowed. If you move to another city, then, you either support that team or you stay home, n' watch your team play on t.v. When you go back to your old city, then you go see your team. This crap we got going on now(with Yanks, Bosox, Cubs, even Phils fans) is a tragedy. They are so bold, and I despise these people. If only terminal cancer patients etc. loved their teams enough to hand out disciplinary actions. Empty seats are usually a sign that the management isn't listening to the fans that pay the bills. That's normal for a losing team's fans to show their anger, but having other team's fans in your house is really sick.

[nebrady]

get a room why don't you. first of all if you were a fin fan would you go see a third string quarterback get beat up, It was a horrible game. Not to mention theisman and millen are idiots. I love how millen called marinelli a great coach! The same coach who never won a game for his lions! He must have great blackmail material to keep his commentator job! What next monday night football please shut millen and theisman up! lol

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

It's very difficult to support a team that has won twice when they are dismantling the team before the players cleaned out their locker. It was a recipe to build championships, but not a recipe to garner a long term fan base. I'll also give the Marlins fans a pass, for sitting a stadium built for football (seats not angled towards home plate), in weather more suited for a Red-Eyed Tree Frog and watching a team that is perpetually rebuilding (save two seasons).

Dolphins fans have been bandwagoners since the '70's, as soon as it looks like they are not making the playoffs, they disappear in droves. 'Canes Football fans? They have always struggled to sell out. If they aren't playing UF, FSU or a non confernence national power, empty seats abound.

It's a Florida thing. Not Scuds' theory of, they have other things to do. It is because a huge majority of the people living in Florida, aren't from Florida (I was in a meeting at work this week and of the 12 people around the table, not one was native Floridian). These people all have allegiences to the teams they grew up rooting for in whatever city they are from. Because of this dynamic, all Florida teams have struggled to build a fanbase beyond their rabid core fans. They are easy to follow when they are winning, but if they are losing, half of Miaimi-Dade and Broward County are rooting for the Yankees, Mets, Giants and Jets and could care less if the Marlins or Dolphins exist.

except for the Gators.. they have a rabid fan base.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

except for the Gators.. they have a rabid fan base.

Tallahassee has a zip code of Florida, but it's hardly Florida compared to South Florida

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by robfla

Tallahassee has a zip code of Florida, but it's hardly Florida compared to South Florida

!!!

Gators are in Gainsville.. Central FL is still FL, sort of.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

!!!

Gators are in Gainsville.. Central FL is still FL, sort of.

oops...

but Gainesville is a bunch of hillbillies

[robfla]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

It's very difficult to support a team that has won twice when they are dismantling the team before the players cleaned out their locker. It was a recipe to build championships, but not a recipe to garner a long term fan base. I'll also give the Marlins fans a pass, for sitting a stadium built for football (seats not angled towards home plate), in weather more suited for a Red-Eyed Tree Frog and watching a team that is perpetually rebuilding (save two seasons).

Dolphins fans have been bandwagoners since the '70's, as soon as it looks like they are not making the playoffs, they disappear in droves. 'Canes Football fans? They have always struggled to sell out. If they aren't playing UF, FSU or a non confernence national power, empty seats abound.

It's a Florida thing. Not Scuds' theory of, they have other things to do. It is because a huge majority of the people living in Florida, aren't from Florida (I was in a meeting at work this week and of the 12 people around the table, not one was native Floridian). These people all have allegiences to the teams they grew up rooting for in whatever city they are from. Because of this dynamic, all Florida teams have struggled to build a fanbase beyond their rabid core fans. They are easy to follow when they are winning, but if they are losing, half of Miaimi-Dade and Broward County are rooting for the Yankees, Mets, Giants and Jets and could care less if the Marlins or Dolphins exist.

Thanks for making a very good point that I was going to respond the same way.